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Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands
12-10-2017, 01:14 PM
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After a few days now I decided to keep the camera, here is my expanding review of the experience directly compared to the K30 as this is my best reference point. (Also owned a Sony A100 at some point).
+ Size. This is the main reason I switched and I'm not disappointed.
+ In-camera charging via micro-USB. Super-awesome! Saves so much weight/bulk when travelling skipping on an additional charger, also makes the camera comfortably independent when wild camping by charging from Powerbank.
+ Auto-brightness for back display
+ Swiveliness of the back display for street stuff
+ Tiny lenses! :-)
+ 4k video looks really nice, maybe I'll use it now and then.
+ IS is super nice, will probably get a 42.5mm to get dual IS for indoor concert stuff.
+ High ISO performance is really solid.
+ Future-Image preview on the screen/EVF
o The viewfinder is really good. Not superb, but it's bright enough and with the magnification on focus is really good to pinpoint focus. It's ok to use with glasses. It's a happy compromise I'll take for all the good stuff
o Holding the camera is a bit unusual after the, for me, perfect grip on the K30. Like going from a well used kitchen knife to a skalpel: probably sharper but much more akward to hold when chopping a pound of potatoes.
o Expensive lenses O.O I never appreciated how darn cheap pentax lenses are... m43 better deliver in terms of IQ when spending 250€+ on a 20mm prime...
o 4:3 aspect ratio will also take some time getting used to
- Manual focusing is not nearly as nice as with the K30 using a M50/1.7 with PK/m43 adapter. I'll be interested to see how a native manual focus m43 lens fares. Also I don't find the EVF to be sharp enough to see what is in focus, focus preview however does make up for that. Probably just getting used to the new system
- The back display has a pentile matrix wich is pleasing looking at for the complete image since pixels are interwoven, but sharp contrast and white saturated areas just look crappy. I'd much prefer a classic RGB layout. I can settle on this and wait a few years to afford a higher tier or an updated version with RGB matrix
- Three button presses to delete an image? Why...
- No weather sealing... not that I feel it is necessary, but with all the seals on the K30 everything fit so snugly into place it was a true pleasure. Now the usb-cover feels super cheap plastic-on-plastic.
- These super tiny concentric grooves in the shutter button and lens release button. All they do is fill up with dirt.
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Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands
12-04-2017, 03:21 PM
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Ah pentile was the word I'm looking for! It's a different subpixel layout from the common square one in almost everything else.
Not completely sure if it's a proper pentile subpixel matrix but it's mist definitely not classic RGB.
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Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands
12-04-2017, 01:25 PM
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Finally got the GX80. Played around a bit with it indoors so far. Not sure if I'll love it. The image stabilisation is super impressive.
The backscreeen is realy grainy which I find very confusing to look at. I don't remmber the name of the technology where individual pixels are interwoven but it bugs me that anything with high contrast looks frayed. To be more specific, on any part of the picture that is maximum brightness, a pattern appears, like a woven pattern, surrounding pixels that are darker don't show this effect.
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Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands
11-25-2017, 08:46 AM
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Will definitely report my findings! Camera and adapter should arrive sometime next week.
I got it from my favorite online foto store (foto-erhardt). They have a 10% off deal for black friday, combined with the 50€ cashback from panasonic it's a very nice price. (There are shops that might be up to 20€ cheaper, but communication and service was always excellent from them)
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Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands
11-24-2017, 11:06 AM
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Woohoo! 370€ for the gx80 with cashback :-)
Now just adding a pentax-mft adapter for the M50 and I'll see if it's worthy.
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Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands
11-23-2017, 09:54 AM
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Today I had the chance to get my hands on both GX80(85) and MkII.
Design:
I liked pretty much everything about the design of the GX80. Even though my dominant eye is my left one I gather it makes no difference if I squish my nose on either camera. The little knobs on the olympus though seem really out of proportion. I guess I don't see much aesthetic(sense) in the retro look.
EVF:
Sadly I didn't have a lot of time with the MKII since they had to pull it out of the showcase, but the viewfinder is better on the olympus. It's not a huge amount of difference, but even though with glasses it was more comfortable. On the GX80 however there was the option to use a classical layout where all the info is below the picture and with that setup I was able to comfortably see the entire picture.
Compared to the K30 both stink.
Since I already worked with a finder-less camera years ago I think I can skip on the EVF being B+ rather than A-.
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Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands
11-23-2017, 03:45 AM
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Thanks, I somehow missed the GX80! It seems the direct competitor to the mk2 and it's also quiete a bit cheaper.
...research in progress...
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Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands
11-21-2017, 12:05 PM
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Hmm I don't see it. Could you elaborate what is actually better apart from menus?
I don't mind if the menus are complicated, there isn't too much I need access to apart from manual mode and A priority after everything is set.
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Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands
11-20-2017, 03:19 AM
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@UncleVanya Thanks for that website! Great for comparison!
Now I know that at least the Lumix 25mm Lens is about as long as the K30+DA35. The Olympus 25mm is a good bit smaller but quite expensive which would set me back at 800€ for body + lens... far from ideal.
If there's about one stop loss in IQ from mft to K3 I am ok with it. I sold off my 70-200/f2.8 because I got tired of lugging it around so with the weight savings I can easily carry a small tripod to counter any low light challenges.
@surfar I looked at the MK3, its about 180€ more expensive and I don't realy care for video. New processor is nice... but the MK2 is already newer than my K30 so it should be an improvement either way.
P.s.
In the reviews of the mkII it is often said that the menus are very complex and have a huge amount of customization options. Directly speaks to me :-)
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Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands
11-19-2017, 10:01 AM
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Gladly, so I'm thinking the olympus has the newer sensor and better IS so hopefully I will end up with roughly the same low light capabilities as with the K30.
As Lenses I'm looking for the Lumix 25mm f1.7 as main lens. Probably going for a 35mm FF equivalent later on. Also have to check size of the 25mm/1.7 to see if it fits or if I have to go pancake.
This would pretty much fullfull my needs in flexibility retaining the option of getting a long lens but also having full dslr capabilities in a much smaller/lighter package.
Any comments appreciated.
P.s. I'm looking to substitute the M50/1.7 and DA35/2.8 lenses since those were the ones I used most.
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Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands
11-19-2017, 02:35 AM
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Thanks for all the input!
Indeed I think I'm suffering from the "sticky" aperture bug, so cleaning should fix it. (Interest in smaller/lighter camera is still valid though).
Either keeping the K30 as Time-lapse sacrifice or selling it off for that purpose.
The suggestion of the Sony got me looking into DSLM's which I didn't think about previously. Since a friend of mine already has an Olympus I'm thinking about getting the OM-D EM10 Mark II which can be had without a lens for a bit under 500€.
Any first-hand experince with this model(-series)?
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Forum: Canon, Nikon, Sony, and Other Camera Brands
11-18-2017, 12:13 PM
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Hi folks,
so, my K30 is starting to manifest the stuck-shutter-bug after about 12k shots. Now, in my last big vacation I only carried the Pentax 35mm DA f2.4 with me and was really happy with it.
So I'm thinking of skipping on buying a new body for my lenses and rather get a compact camera to shed volume and weight from my backpack.
What I'd wish for:
- Same Image Quality at 35mm or 50mm (APSC equivalent, ~50-80FF)
- Same Ruggedness
- Preferably somewhere around ~500€
I looked up some prime compacts, but they were ridiculously expensive like leica...
Anyone with some good suggestions?
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