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Forum: Flashes, Lighting, and Studio
10-24-2018, 08:39 PM
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I didn't know we could do that, get the V6ii to do 'stuff' when it's not in the hotshoe of the camera. Cool! :cool:
It's not a massive problem to have the 360ii on the v6ii on the camera, as the 360ii is quite a lot smaller and compact than the 540ii I had or the rf60x.
Thanks, lots and lots of solutions it seems to get this all working, and I now have an additional v6ii to assist in the equation of it all.
Basically from what I was experiencing in the field the other day is that the K-1+360ii and the 'Doughnut' (Vello Ringbox flash softbox) is quite a comfortable walk around set up. Having a second light stand somewhere as the keylight and using the something more powerful like the RF60x from that place might make for a nice shot, then we are using the doughnut as more of a fill light (with pretty catch lights... yes... PRETTY!) :D
But also, wanted to do rim light as well for hair stuff etc.
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Forum: Flashes, Lighting, and Studio
10-23-2018, 01:02 PM
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Okokok.... let's wait up for a second and see if I have this right.
I'm looking at the Manual for the RF60x, page 39-40 as suggested. It appears that when placing the RF60x into OPT SL S2 mode, it's going to be optically triggered from the 360ii, no need for a v6ii at all, correct? But this optical triggering can be a bit hit or miss right, depending upon ambient light, distance and all that kinda stuff? Really just the reverse of what I've done thus far with my RF60x and 360ii, in that I placed the 360ii in SL2 mode and it was optically triggered from the RF60x.
But I was under the impression if I were the have the K-1 with the v6ii and the 360ii on top of that, I'm not going to manage (regardless of firmware installed on the v6ii) to get the 360ii to work as normal (full functionality as if it were in the hotshoe) and then also still have full functionality of the V6ii to control the power of the RF60x as per normal etc? If the 360ii can do HSS (which it can) and I can control it's power direct (as it's sitting on top of the v6ii (in Tx mode) in the hotshoe of the camera, we'd have to use bypass ttl mode, and wouldn't that then kill off any functionality and control over the RF60x?
And then also what about HSS?
I'm now just starting to put my head together for all sorts of working flash combos with the 360ii and rf60x, not just with the perhaps awkward ring flash. Currently I am with just one V6ii, but by the end of today that might change and I'll have two v6ii units which might open up the potential for working scenarios.
What's just occurring to me, is that the ring flash might make a nice fill light, and the 360ii is a less powerful flash, so it might suit that purpose. RF60x as a key light elsewhere. That would mean on location shoots I have a two light set up, one that's a softbox 'on camera' with me, leaving me with only having to carry a single light stand with a rf60x and a softbox (or magsphere). Could be quite a portable and easy two light set up if I could understand how to make it all play ball without missing out on features like P-TTL or HSS.
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Forum: Flashes, Lighting, and Studio
10-22-2018, 08:25 PM
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Thanks guys again. I'll look at that manual but it sounds as if you can make the RF60x trigger without the v6ii but from being optically triggered from another flash (the 360ii in this case from within the Ringbox.
Ok.. that sounds simplest. Does however... having the Rf60x out of sight from the 360ii (ie the RF60x is being used as a rim light and is behind a body), does that hinder the success of it firing? ie no line of sight?
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Forum: Flashes, Lighting, and Studio
10-22-2018, 07:27 PM
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Well, that's what I'm asking, I didn't even know the RF60x could be triggerred optically by the 360ii, can it? If so how do I make them do that (modes etc)?
And yes, the other option would be to somehow stuff the rf60x into the ring flash and just have the camera close by to it, still poking through the hole etc but not attached to the RF60x. That seems more setup time and a little more 'static'. I get more versatility for composition by having the ringflash 'on my person' than having to worry about aiming through it from a fixed location etc.
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Forum: Flashes, Lighting, and Studio
10-22-2018, 05:20 PM
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Ok... so a bit of a weird one here.
I have the following items;
- K-1
- Vello Ringbox Flash Soft Box
- V6ii
- AF360FGZII
- RF60x
What I want to do is actually have the 360ii in the hotshoe of the K-1 which is the going through/into the Flashring softbox so that I get direct flash working from that, but then I want the RF60x to somehow be triggered in the equation/shot, either as a secondary fill light or act as a rim light.
Luckily for me, the 360II is quite compact, I could actually put a V6ii on top of the K-1 and then add the 360ii into the v6ii hotshoe and still get the flash to successfully poke through into the Ringbox, if that helps...
Thus far I can use the K-1 with the V6ii, get the RF60x to fire and trigger the 360ii (SL2 mode). Problem with that is that nothing is in the hotshoe of the camera, I might be able to make that still work with just clever arms and lightstands and then just position the camera with the v6ii through the ring. But I'm just kinda wanting to know if I can do the same but in reverse, with the 360ii on the camera triggering the RF60x.
Is this possible?
Cheers,
Bruce
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