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Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 11-29-2017, 03:52 PM  
Pentax Cinematography.
Posted By TomGarn
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As the K3 has good controls but no real Shake Reduction ... one maybe can
live with the small codec ... if not doing to much editing, yes. A better choice.

The K5 shutter can only be controlled when using ND-filters and the right f-stop
this needs a lot experience and understanding ... so it may be almost possible
The same of course with ISO - which also is a stupid automatism ... and needs
to be balanced with manual aperture as well ...

These things are such a hastle and may destroy a lot of flow, love and aestetics.
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 11-25-2017, 05:18 PM  
Pentax Cinematography.
Posted By TomGarn
Replies: 49
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Friends ...

... finally I made it ... and got a Panasonic Lumix GH5
... now selling my Pentax K5 with equipment used for video only.

Pentax had some good things invented but didn't go for their video-fans.
Shocking is their terrible vision to coop with their video-departement for all these years.

If interested in my K5 and equipment please ask for the list.
(Here they want a donation for sales)
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 09-22-2017, 08:29 AM  
K1 on the beach
Posted By TomGarn
Replies: 12
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Excellent shooting !
Very interesting stuff and superb editing as well ...

But the resolution and shutter-smoothness of the camera is not above average of simple consumer video-cameras.
Maybe because we have 720p here only (HD must be paid on Vimeo) ... we can see no crisp image ?
(Full-frame should do much better ... if taken serious)

If you upload this somewhere else - and in best possible resolution - please let us know !!!
Thank you for sharing - even now !
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 08-28-2017, 01:17 AM  
Turn off SR for video?
Posted By TomGarn
Replies: 18
Views: 1,975
Yes, richandfleur ... I am pretty aware of these problematic things, as you will know.

Because some of us still work with the K7 and K5... and some have postively looked at the old mechanical SR I still posted these tests and prooves.
Some of us always felt that Pentax should open mechanical sensor-SR for video-mode again. Now we see they have closed it for good reasons - even if it was of some help to some of us - if done very aware.

Yes, this is rotten past - but never dies - as we still (and me) have a Pentax K5 or even K7 ... Right ?
Maybe "just for the record" only ... OK ?
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 08-28-2017, 01:07 AM  
Nice K5 video..whats the gear?
Posted By TomGarn
Replies: 18
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Thanks Jeff,

something went right here - technically - and other aspects may be for questioning ..
cause this is mostly about the image - quality - of my K5-video-Pentax ...
Forget about the lyrics ... *lol*
... Shake Reduction plus sometimes needed Premiere Warp (image stabilisation) and low-light questions ...
... and some intensive Hot Pixel - neutralizing ... (Boris) ...

Those guys are quoting some mixed poetry / critical lyrics / from Germany, while second world war.
Call it a local culture-event ...
This is no "sewer tunnel" ... but a very small "air-raid shelter" called: "tube-bunker"















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Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 08-27-2017, 07:45 AM  
K-1 questions for Video, specifically external mic/sound suggestions
Posted By TomGarn
Replies: 41
Views: 4,157
Be prepared to take an adapter with you - professional p.a. people mostly don't have such things - connecting pro-tools to semipro-tools
You may need an XLR out (female version) to our small mic-input. >> see this one >>
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 08-27-2017, 07:00 AM  
Nice K5 video..whats the gear?
Posted By TomGarn
Replies: 18
Views: 1,724
...
Quick comment on Pentax's mechanical Shake Reduction: (as in my Pentax K5 videos above)

The sensor for the SR on the K5 (as well K7) - returns back to its centered position - when the pan ends.
If you get used to it, you don't stop suddenly, but go on panning very slowly. This way you can almost catch the returning sensor shift.
This comes with some routine and muscle controle ;-)
...
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 08-27-2017, 05:54 AM  
Turn off SR for video?
Posted By TomGarn
Replies: 18
Views: 1,975
There is one situation Steve, where the SR on my K7 surprised me a lot - positively - when shooting from a driving tripod:

(...and your training can sophisticate the SR: >> as commented in here << ...)















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Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 08-27-2017, 04:56 AM  
Turn off SR for video?
Posted By TomGarn
Replies: 18
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My K5 did just the same RETURNMENT with the SR - and I once had two of them in my posession !

Maybe your shootings where not that smoothly and controlled like in my testing-demonstration ?
Also in very slow panning it can be overseen, especially if not so "flatmoving" as in my peacefull scenery above.
The same in very wild situations, when one can miss-out this "bug" because so much is happening for the watcher anyway ...

Of course SR was On here. Only excuse: It may have been broken - other than in your K7 ... >> see also
You can see the function in the always-turning-back to the original-standpoint, which seems to be logical for this kind of sensor shake reduction.

Yesterday I had been in the shop again to do some pannings and focus experiments with the GH5. There was almost no such false returning of
the 5-axis stabilisation - plus two axes on the 12-35 lense - plus electronic stabilisation ... as far as I could see in the viewfinder. I have written the
clips to my own SD-card and will see now what came out of that ...
Yes, there is a little image-turning-back as well ... but that might just be a reflex of my muscle-moves that prevent a full stop here.

Full HD MOVE transcoded by Premiere to mpg.4 - H.264

Directly from my website: ... GH5 proudly presents: "THE PANNING"

............................................. or here - uploaded to YouTube:














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Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 08-25-2017, 01:38 PM  
Turn off SR for video?
Posted By TomGarn
Replies: 18
Views: 1,975
Eletronical SR - unusable.

Mechanical SR for video would have to be reinvented by Pentax (besides the copyright of other systems) And there are many companies these days who have a good 5-axis-image stabilisation
Once we liked the mechanical SR by Pentax K7 and K5 a little more - but today it is not acceptable any longer. Going back in time would serve nobody.

In case you haven't seen this example for the old Pentax-mechanical SR start at minute 1:18 (K7 and K5 had the same SR)















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Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 08-25-2017, 01:13 PM  
K1 Video is not that bad
Posted By TomGarn
Replies: 26
Views: 2,750
Thanks to you, Snakeisthestuff !
Yes, no need to talk about the video-quality it seems, Sad.
Smartphones can mostly do better in such situations ...

But the sound is quite good, maybe because of distant speakers ?
Oh, you even got the RODE on external. Very good !

In daylight video might be better ?
But Thanks anyway ... and whatever the outcome might be !!!


Thanks for your video-clip Smigol !
Good to see someone share his stuff - even though the quality cannot cheer up anyone.
Well, that lense may be also a reason for little sharpness, but for photos it might serve you well - while travelling, etc.
The SR is just terrible. Don't use it please, It is disgusting. Oh my ....

Thanks again !
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 08-25-2017, 12:58 PM  
Pentax Cinematography.
Posted By TomGarn
Replies: 49
Views: 5,586
Cinematics ? (A very personnal job-situation review (aged 62 years now)

Well, Pentaxistic videomakers are so rare ... we can't really open up a discussion or "Learning DSLR" group here it seems (quoting beloved "Dave Dugdale's" Tube-Series, that really teaches so very well) This whole Pentax thing is mostly off-road (highway to hell) Lots of frustrations to come for low-low budget fools like us. You either get it - or not ...
Watching Panasonic Lumix GH5 ... or Sony's 7S ... or alpha 6500 ... Canon, even Olympus or whatever ... and then returning to what could be possible with Pentax ... leaves us almost speachless.

What about me ? I am a frustrated ENG-Cameraman who, years ago, lost all contacts to tv-production-companies. I never had my own professional equipment and almost no direct connections. I always used the company's professional equipment for all my broadcast jobs as a freelancer.
Four years ago I dropped my dead job and started working as a photographer with my Pentax K10D which did the job absolutely sufficient enough ... well, just photos of refurbished young AUDIs ... lol. Then I switched to K7 and K5 to find a way of returning to video with my own equipment and even my own storytelling. This idea failed to work out because I didn't get the knick of finding my own customers and be happy with my Pentaxes to really go for straight job-acquisition.

For years I knew it must rather be ... could only be ... a Panasonic Lumix GH 2 ... 3 ... 4 ... or 5 ... to start all over again. When money came close enough I tested the GH5 with a 12-35/2.8 and a 35 -100/2.8 in the shop. I found out AF was not my choice and manual focus was poor in the eyes of my old school skills. Yes, the focus-peaking is quite good but overlays the now viewed image. Before I only used such a focus-assistant if I had to work with company-equipment that had no sharp viewfinder for focussing their semipro cameras. Nowadays AF is needed because cheap lenses are not parfocal and can't zoom in for focussing and then zoom back and shoot.

Today I got an optional job with a DSLR or DSLM - and might get the courage together to jump in the cold water and just buy equipment. I am so tired to rent a camera - cause I have done this for years for non broadcast-jobs, but again and again technical problems happen due to those non-professional tools and their bad caretaking. Sometimes I was lucky enough: The sound was OK and usable, batteries were strong, tripod was stable enough, etc. The other problem is you mostly have different systems, quality and extras, depending on what is still available in the shop right now. A tricky game. Now I want my own stuff only !
But most of all I now need new ways to go for jobs ... New path, new camera, new positioning ...

The shop nearby sells the Panasonic GH5 but only rents a Sony A7S II ... mostly with Metabone Speedbooster to add Canon quality lenses - not my choice I think. To heavy for handheld jobs
So now the point to jump for a GH5 is closer than ever - but I also don't want to fool myself just because of this optional job ... but it could also serve me well to make the jump at all.

Pentax-Alternative could only be:
Get a connectable viewfinder for the display, so manual focussing can be controlled well enough. (For me even with additional lenses inside - done by the optician - needed for my old-age reading-glass distance) Get a Pentax K-01 or the new KP and add your favourite lenses for manual focus ... Forget about the unusable Shake Reduction (mechanical and electronic) and use some sort of shoulder-support to smoothen the hand-held shaking ... or use a tripod of course.

Thinking over GH5 and 7S II ?















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Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 08-21-2017, 11:33 AM  
K1 Video is not that bad
Posted By TomGarn
Replies: 26
Views: 2,750
... Why nobody shows his great K1 videos here at all ? Something unnamingly weird is happening in this Pentax Board. Just theory and moralistic nonpracticability .... somehow ... 😪
I did show plenty of my K5 material but there is no discussion at all about image quality ... Why is this thread done just like a contradictory backfighting standpoint attempt and shows not the slightest proof at all ?
Pentax followers are strange ... more or less.
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 08-17-2017, 11:57 AM  
Q & A about Pentax KP - VIDEO
Posted By TomGarn
Replies: 21
Views: 2,555
Now two questions about Pentax glass on MFT (Focus must be manual always, anyway, yes)
1. Is that mostly suitable only for lenses with real aperture ring ? As far as I remember half-heartedly you need a more expensive adapter if lense is without a ring and to guide the f-stops externally per body or via adapter. Otherwise simple adapters can serve well enough along with fully classic photo-lenses. Right ?
2. How much will the image crop with Pentax APS-C on a MFT adapter ?
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 08-14-2017, 07:10 PM  
Q & A about Pentax KP - VIDEO
Posted By TomGarn
Replies: 21
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Thanks for your view on KP and Panasonic.
Of course Pentax is not even a video camera for beginners. It cannot compare in any segment.
But if you allready own Pentax components you want to switch from your old body to one with better minimal abilities. The K3 once almost offered the entrylevel of having at least manual ISO, shutter speed and soundlevel. Before that Pentax just worked automatically and was almost unusable for serious jobs.
But K3 was still poor in codec and without true image stabilisation -
so still no serious choice to any prosumer even if it came a little closer to the entrylevel ... but at the same time lost much codec-quality compared to the older K5.
Now the KP just won a few points in codec and maybe in low light but still got no IS worth its name.
The new grip is utter nonsense because it creates smaller batteries.
Foolish Pentax always plays with secondary new shapes, colors and gimmicks to gain superficial interests but does not lift the quality of minimal affordings ... sad old song.
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 08-10-2017, 03:03 AM  
Q & A about Pentax KP - VIDEO
Posted By TomGarn
Replies: 21
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Please show some video-links with KP footage if possible ... I still think of swapping my K5 for it to get the KP for low budget or back up.

My second thought on going for Olympus - even though it falls a little short compared to the Lumix GH5 in most disciplines. But the 2 main lenses are better on manual mode (12-40 and 40-150 / 2.8) ... (sadly still varifocal of course - as with all MFT-glass.)
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 08-08-2017, 02:38 AM  
Q & A about Pentax KP - VIDEO
Posted By TomGarn
Replies: 21
Views: 2,555
Most admired focus gimmicks are not needed, not wanted, and not even possible at manual parfocal lenses when you are searching outside MFT-gardens. We could call that a Pentax-Dream for halfway Pros without money or with the urge to go lightweighted on their run and gun field trips with alternative pro-equipment that is available in a thinkable niche of photocameras in our dreams only ...

Speedboosters on MFT yet offer the most usable pro-acess but leaves the plain and class of it's format with higher weight and budget.

Pentax would open up a new market if they fullfill certain wishes that some of us 23 loyals have still in mind and even here this vision is shared only partially.

Parfocal and fast lenses are wanted if you will not develop those semi-pro-dreams of focus-peaking and quick continous AF. But with them only you can zoom manually and get the best possible focus.

Recording outside the body is only second choice, best is a propper codec and high memory bodywise.

Yes, a robust 3 or 5 axis SR is a must inside the body as well. but Pentax yet has not reached a quality SR even in so called good K5 times. It is still shaky and impossible for good smooth panning. Well at least it is better than this ugly stupid electronic movie SR ...

Pentax will never go for high video dreams as we all know for 5 years now. You're right !
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 08-04-2017, 04:39 PM  
Q & A about Pentax KP - VIDEO
Posted By TomGarn
Replies: 21
Views: 2,555
My point would be loving to use real lenses - parfocal / manual focus / possible zoom - directly on the KP
and forget about the GH5 - and Olympus - lenses - being varifocal and impossible to zoom.

But the optical aethetics in colour and resolution of known Pentax Cameras (up to now) are not high quality.
Yes, your police video looks better than K5 results - even at night time. But I see no equal quality to GH5 & Co.

What is still missing anyway is a lense with 8 x zoom at 2.8 minimum,
but that is true about all semiprofessional DSLR and DSLM yet ...
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 07-30-2017, 08:09 AM  
Q & A about Pentax KP - VIDEO
Posted By TomGarn
Replies: 21
Views: 2,555
Nobody here who films with the Pentax KP at all ?

I can't believe all Pentaxians are completely desillusioned ... ;-)
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 07-26-2017, 05:39 PM  
Nice K5 video..whats the gear?
Posted By TomGarn
Replies: 18
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This was my third last - try and error - with Pentax K5 and my Tamron 17-50 / 2.8 and Pentax A 35-105 / 3.5

I tried to be quick enough but had to dump so very many blurred shots - DSLR-video and sports is not a clever thought of course.
Manual focus with little light at quick targets is not easily done if lenses are not included to your brain-muscles, especially with these poor focus-rings.

Some tele-shots are done on an old photo-tripod which can only serve halfway for the 105 mm (well almost)

Watch the slow shutter in the later scenes - time to get rid of the NDx4 - filter then of course.

Some shaky shots were tranquilized by Premiere's tool ("warp" something ?)


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By the way ... second last K5 video ...
... in washing up of my history with the K5 - unsharp / shaky / shutter-madness ... but with a very sharp Tamron 17-50 / 2.8 (sharp in photo mode)

Here I still heavily worked on editing the footage because I had to look for a tool that neutralizes some terrible hot-spots in low light !
I found "Boris" for this and operated it on my Adobe Premiere ... cleaned ca. 8 spots - mostly burning white ... around 2 or 4 pixels big
















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I had two K5 in the end - My last video I didn't edit fully anymore - the two cameras shooting simultanously at a club-concert.
Here I found out that my second camera had no hot-spots at all ...
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 07-26-2017, 04:58 PM  
K-1 and External Recording
Posted By TomGarn
Replies: 15
Views: 2,807
Count me in. We are three now.
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 07-25-2017, 02:29 AM  
What do you guys do for video?
Posted By TomGarn
Replies: 180
Views: 11,019
Sorry, there is no cooperation / adding up / Anti-Shake between Olympus glass and Lumix bodies, and vice versa ...
Even the Olympus 12-100 / 4 which has its own SR does not add up to the GH5 Shake Reduction (towards SR inside the Oly body it does of course)

Olympus MFT lenses have a much better manual focus but that's all ... Zooming is impossible cause they all loose focus on their march
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 07-24-2017, 08:14 PM  
What do you guys do for video?
Posted By TomGarn
Replies: 180
Views: 11,019
@richandfleur ... Tell us more and show it please.
What camera, what footage, what mistakes and errors...
Problem with Pentaxists is they live in dreams of any future to come true.
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 07-24-2017, 01:40 PM  
Pentax Cinematography.
Posted By TomGarn
Replies: 49
Views: 5,586
No Pidicus, the front lense was clean (of course) and the ND filter was clean as well.
but internal reflections between top lense-glass and ND-filter are very possible while direct light shines in to the "tunnel" ...
even though I bought high priced ND filters with the best possible coating. (Hoya Pro Digital: NDX 4 + NDX 16)

But anyway, nobody seems to be much interested in analysing this clip ... and care for Pentax Videos anyway.
because there is not much to say about Pentax anymore ...
We, the lost few veterans of a forgotten premature war ...
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 07-09-2017, 02:40 AM  
Pentax Cinematography.
Posted By TomGarn
Replies: 49
Views: 5,586
Hamburg calling - a reminder to me - from the K5

My first attempt to act like a tv-team just on my own - at this peaceful Demo in Hamburg, 2014
Pentax K5 aperture, shutter and sensitivity automatic didn't always work right with me then.
It's a complicated game to ALMOST controle exposure, shutterspeed and ISO, because they are completely
automatic and must be tricked around the bush somehow ... Here I had overblown hights I could not controle
yet ... Later on I found this can be done - almost - but also the SR is not good at all in such vivid scenes, and
this problem adds up to a to slow or to fast shutterspeed without your own will ...
You can see all those faulty mismanagements here, but most of all now I do dislike the blurred image.

ND4 filter on my Tamron 17-50 / 2.8
(At least Zoom-Motion is possible here with ease because of parfocal glass.)
















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