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Forum: Lens Clubs 01-04-2019, 09:58 AM  
HD Pentax-D FA 24-70mm F2.8 Club
Posted By johnc
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New year's day walk with K-1 and D-FA 24-70 at Dunham Massey, England. Sometimes, I am really happy with the 24-70, other times.... I don't get it quite right somehow.









John C
Forum: Lens Clubs 01-13-2019, 07:44 AM  
HD Pentax-D FA 24-70mm F2.8 Club
Posted By johnc
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A couple of re-processes from a few weeks ago in Scotland.





John C
Forum: Lens Clubs 01-19-2019, 07:01 AM  
HD Pentax-D FA 24-70mm F2.8 Club
Posted By Rondec
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Cattle and Tree.

Cattle and Tree by Vincent1825, on Flickr

Cattle.

Cattle by Vincent1825, on Flickr

Both are pixel shifted images with the DFA 24-70mm.
Forum: Lens Clubs 01-14-2019, 04:26 PM  
HD Pentax-D FA 24-70mm F2.8 Club
Posted By irek83
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Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 03-17-2015, 06:59 PM  
prime, prime, everywhere a prime...
Posted By interested_observer
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Evening,

I do landscapes, cityscapes and stuff. Having said that, knowing the why behind some of the recommendations, I find really helps. In terms of portraits, wide angle lenses do really poorly because they distort in order to pull in the wide view. That is why folks are recommending 50mm to 85mm to 135mm for portraits. Here are a few links that point up the differences.... and here is just a whole slew of images that drive home the point...A lens for landscapes. Well, any lens can be used for a landscape. What it comes down to is pretty much a two items. The view you want to capture and the foreground.
  • Let's say that there is a mountain range off in the distance with a trash filled gully right in front of you. Using a telephoto lens, you will just capture the mountains pretty close up - shooting "over" the gully.

  • Then there is the lake view right in front of you with the mountain's reflection in the lake. With a wide angle lens you can capture the lake with the reflection along with the mountain, all in one shot.

  • Ahhh, but you don't have a wide angle lens. No problem - just take the lens that you do have - let's say your 18-55 kit lens. Turn it down to 18mm - not wide enough, you say. Well then, shoot the scene in sections - panels with about 25% overlap. Then down load Microsoft ICE (its free), and it will stitch it together for you. Instant wide angle lens.

If you have a burning desire for a "prime" lens, I would suggest looking on Craigslist for a Pentax film camera. They usually come with a 50mm f2 attached - for about $20. It's a good lens, but not a f1.4 or f1.2, but it's manual focus and just a single focal length. You can compare the shots from it to your current lens and see what you like - without mortgaging your first born.

If you have the kit lens, just experiment with it (or them if you have the pair). Just set them for the desired focal length and go shoot something - instant "prime". The key is to go experiment with what you have to figure out what you like, and don't like.

:cool:
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 01-03-2019, 06:24 PM  
Just had to tell someone how excited I am about new maro lens
Posted By fill23ca
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I love my wife, as she hasn't complained about me purchasing some new lenses, but she doesn't give a rats behind when I get a new lens, so I just wanted to tell some people how excited I am to get the Pentax-D FA 100mm F2.8 Macro WR. Last week Amazon Canada had one in their warehouse department for $398.20. The kicker was their warehouse had an additional 20% off so I got it for an incredible 318.56. With tax it was 359.97. The cheapest I've seen this is 549 at any point.


There was absolutely nothing wrong with the lens. The box it came in was dented a little as described.

I'm so excited to try this bad boy out.

Happy New Year everyone!
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 01-03-2019, 08:20 AM  
HELP with next lens purchase!
Posted By normhead
Replies: 58
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From that selection, the DA*50-135 would be the forum pick, just based on past conversations. I'd also ad the Sigma 70 macro if you can find one or Tamron 90 macro. The Sigma 70 is the common lens used by Imaging Resources for sensor tests, because it is available on the most platforms (and like most macros, very good edge to edge) , but it's one of those Sigma oversized lenses, big but sharp really smooth out of focus areas, and the Tamron 90 macro is also very highly rated on every platform and very sharp. My first choice after kits and my fast 50 was a second hand Tamron 90 macro. (Bought form a guy who's brother wanted him to switch to Nikon so bad, he bought him a complete Nikon camera system.) My wife commandeered it as her walk around and almost never lets me use it. Sometimes a lens can be too good for your own good.
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 01-03-2019, 08:03 AM  
HELP with next lens purchase!
Posted By northcoastgreg
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If portrait photography and objects against blurred backgrounds is what you're chiefly interested, then a fast zoom with telephoto reach or a fast telephoto prime would be the wisest choice. Zooms to consider would be the aforemention Tamron 28-75 2.8 or the Pentax DA* 50-135. The Pentax is a bit on the pricey side. For primes, the best options would be the FA 77 and the DA 70, with the FA 77 being a bit on the pricey side.
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 01-03-2019, 07:48 AM  
HELP with next lens purchase!
Posted By normhead
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Everyone has a favourite lens, and given the exact same circumstances would buy a different lens next. But, it sure is fun shopping and helping other people spend their money.

Based on the images so far, I'd pick the 77, which will never probably happen (for me) because I have a Sigma 70 macro that I hardly ever use, a Tamron 90 macro and Pentax 100 macro, a DA*60-250, and the DFA 28-105. I just have too many great lenses in that focal range. But there's a reason it was voted the best Pentax lens of all time by us forum members. (Of course I voted for the 31 ltd, which I also don't own but I digress)

If I knew then what I know now, I would have the FA 50 macro and DFA 100 for macro, pass on the Sigma 70 and Tamron 90, and get the 77. But, I'd be missing out on two great lenses. This is how people end up owning every lens out there.
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 01-02-2019, 07:51 PM  
HELP with next lens purchase!
Posted By builttospill
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It can be a difficult decision narrowing down choices for lenses. It makes it even harder when Pentax has so many nice options (* and Limited). I suggest starting with the decision of a prime or zoom. Primes have a wider maximum aperture, higher IQ, and a lower price-point. Zooms are convenient and versatile. Personally I've always preferred primes. Your current collection and experience showing kit lens-photos says you prefer zooms. Are you wanting to refine your collection of zooms, or expand your experience with a nice prime? One thing for sure, you're moving in the right direction spending a little more on a premium lens.

I like the idea of suggesting an FA Limited. Any of them. You won't regret it and you can't go wrong with any of the three. On APS-C my most-used lens is the FA 43. On FF (film and the K-1) it's the FA 77. Even though the FA 43 is my all-time favorite Pentax lens, I would suggest the 31 or 77 over the 43 due to your FA 50. The FA 50/1.4 and FA 43 are very different lenses, but the other two expand your lineup a little better. Your $500 gift card won't cover the entire purchase, so I'd sell the other two 50s (A and M). If you haven't taken a look through this thread, you might want to start saving up for the other to FA Limiteds: The FA Limited Club - PentaxForums.com.

If you're leaning toward a premium zoom, there have been many great suggestions here. The 20-40 is nice, the DFA 24-70 or Tamron 28-75 are great options. I wouldn't consider the 16-85 a premium lens, but it does offer you a focal range you currently don't have. If you get the 16-85, I'd suggest selling your 18-55 and 28-105. If you get the 24-70/28-75 I'd suggest you sell your 28-105. If you get the 20-40 I'd say sell your 18-55 and 28-105. Of course you don't have to sell any of your lenses, but once you start collecting higher-end lenses, you won't reach for the others very often, if ever.

K10D and FA 43




K-1 and FA 43




K10D and FA 77


K-1 and FA 77
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 01-02-2019, 05:57 PM  
HELP with next lens purchase!
Posted By mikesbike
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And this depends on what focal lengths you need to have available, and how fast the lens? There is no perfect lens for all needs. The Pentax DFA 24-70mm f/2.8 will give you some wide angle at its shortest setting with APS-C use. It is made for FF use, where it would provide a much wider angle. Of course no problem using it on APS-C bodies where you'd get less wide angle. But with its hood on, it weighs around 2 lbs and is 4.3 inches long without the hood, has a front circumference of 82mm for any filter you might use, and has around $1,000+ price tag. I'm sure a good multi-coated circular polarizing filter of 82mm will be quite costly also. Distortion is very high at 24mm as is wide open vignetting (darkening of image corners), which is to be expected of such a lens.

But do you really need to have f/2.8 speed? The beauty of APS-C is moderate size. The DA18-135mm is only 3 inches long without hood, just a 62mm filter size, weighs under 1lb. with hood, and is priced well under $500. Wide open between 18-70mm, already a much greater zoom range than the DFA lens, it will be at f/3.5-4.5, or about one stop slower than the DFA lens. This means it will need to have the ISO doubled in lower lighting to get the same shutter speed, which will increase noise. For example, If the DFA lens wide open can use ISO 1600 to get the needed shutter speed, the DA 18-135mm lens, wide open from 18-70mm will need ISO 3200 to get the same shutter speed. Your kit lens, however, and many other shorter zoom lenses, will already be at f/5.6 wide open at 55mm, which will require ISO 6400, where noise increase with the K-5 will definitely be significant.

The DA 18-135mm, however, exhibits somewhat lower vignetting and distortion at its widest angle, which is a lot wider than the DFA lens, and at 24mm, which is the DFA's widest, this DA lens comes in at very low distortion and vignetting. What many of us do is get the zoom lens that best suits our needs. It might not be the fastest available, unless that is what we need. If not the fastest, for low light and other fast-aperture needs, we obtain one or more fast primes, which are faster than most fast zoom lenses. Like the FA 35mm f/2, a FF based lens, or the cheaper DA 35mm f/2.4 prime lens. For moderate telephoto there is, of course, the superb FA 77mm f/1.8 Limited.

If requiring a shorter pro-style zoom lens of f/2.8 aperture for APS-C, there are alternative lenses like the very nice Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 EX DC. It is 3.6 inches long without hood, and weighs just 1.24 lb. with a common filter size of 77mm. No weather sealing, but otherwise a well-built lens with fine performance. I have one for low light and fast action shooting when needed. Its price at B&H has been running at $369. Sometimes a fast prime lens will not cover situations where one needs to constantly change the focal length, so a fast zoom lens is the only answer.
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 01-01-2019, 07:32 PM  
HELP with next lens purchase!
Posted By clickclick
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Just make it a star or a Limited, and you can't go too far wrong. ;)
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 01-01-2019, 06:07 PM  
HELP with next lens purchase!
Posted By robgski
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FWIW, , the FA 77mm is an incredible lens, whether you have any interest in street or portraits, whether formal or informal, [IMG]Singing Hands Black and White by Rob Gutkowski, on Flickr[/IMG] still life "fine art" [IMG]Table Setting SI 12 by Rob Gutkowski, on Flickr[/IMG] or even faux-macro [IMG]Tattered by Rob Gutkowski, on Flickr[/IMG]
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 01-01-2019, 04:58 PM  
HELP with next lens purchase!
Posted By normhead
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Great choice above if you want it all.. the only draw backs are it's pretty heavy and will take some space in your camera bag.
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 01-01-2019, 04:17 PM  
HELP with next lens purchase!
Posted By Ash
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Yes, the 24-70 fits that bill, but it is bulkier than the alternatives and heavy. That's important for you to consider.


The Tamron 28-75 is not weather sealed, but has close to the quality of the Pentax (on the left of the photo below) for less cost and weight.
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 01-01-2019, 02:39 PM  
HELP with next lens purchase!
Posted By Mallee Boy
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More options to consider.
As previously mentioned....seriously consider the Pentax 12-24 for your K5, a very good lens I have had the pleasure of using but not owning. The one I do own that I would recommend is the DA 21mm, can't say enough good things about this little guy.
Uncle Vanya makes a good point with the 50-135, beautiful lens, but that then gives you overlap on your 55-300 which I understand is also a great lens.
PS: Not sure if anyone has mentioned the DA* 16-50, another lens in our stable, which sits on my wife's K3, another excellent lens, but maybe out of your price range. The 16-50 is a versatile, fast, high quality lens.
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 01-01-2019, 02:33 PM  
HELP with next lens purchase!
Posted By mikesbike
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The 24-?mm is going to be more versatile, for use with both FF and APS-C. On the latter, 24mm still provides moderate wide angle, where 28mm would provide none. Any f/2.8 zoom lens will be on the large and heavy side. I have 3 shorter f/2.8 zoom lenses, my very long-time Tokina ATX 28-70mm f2.6-2.8 pro II, my long-time FF Sigma 24-60mm EX DG, and this past year, the for APS-C Sigma 17-50mm EX DC. The Tokina lens is seldom used due to the WA lack. I get fine results from both Sigmas, and choose which depending on whether I will need wide angle with a little more reach, or much wider angle with less reach. How often do I use these lenses? Basically when I need the f/2.8 speed they offer.

Otherwise, why carry the added weight? If I need only a moderate FL zoom range for all around people shots and scenics, it is largely my DA 20-40mm Limited, due to its lightweight compactness, along with very sharp image quality. But for all-around versatility, like going from a squirrel to a cow, for instance, and mixing in some people shots, it is hard to beat the DA 18-135mm lens, especially for the price. Its image quality is much better than generally thought. I suggest the OP visit the neighboring thread, "Which K-70 package?" to see some sample photos by Des on p. 2 which really tell a story of versatility and quality. Even its Bokeh is quite decent. Both its range and its quality, let alone its fast, accurate AF, is better by far than the kit lens.

Of course, the FA 77mm LTD can deliver outstanding bokeh and great refined image quality, along with its fast aperture (I've long had this lens too), but a prime lens will not suffice for the various needs the OP has in mind. This is why we have cameras that can allow changing lenses.
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 01-01-2019, 02:07 PM  
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Posted By UncleVanya
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If you plan to stay with APSC, the DA 50-135 is far more useful than the 24-70 in my opinion.
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 01-01-2019, 12:34 PM  
HELP with next lens purchase!
Posted By niblue
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IMHO if going FF the difference between a 24-70 and a 28-75 is a big one. I find I really miss 24mm when I only have a lens that goes to 28mm at the wide end, while I've never really missed the difference between 70 & 75 at the long end. Less of an issue on APS-C of course but worth thinking about if FF is of interest.

I used to have one of the Tokina ATX-Pro 28-70 F2.6-2.8's in my film days but found I missed 24mm a lot. With FF I'm using a Sigma 24-70 F2.8 and find that's great as a general purpose lens (plus it's also a lot lighter than the Tokina was!).
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 01-01-2019, 11:52 AM  
HELP with next lens purchase!
Posted By niblue
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The 24-70 would be a very good option if you're going FF soon - but personally it's not something I find all that useful on APS-C. It's also worth considering some of the other F2.8 zooms in that focal length as well - I have the Sigma and it's very good and can be had a lot cheaper.

Personally if I was going to add a lens to your kit it'd be one of the 10-20mm Sigmas, as that was one of my most used lenses in APS-C. A macro lens would also be nice though and there are lots of options available.
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 01-01-2019, 12:24 PM  
HELP with next lens purchase!
Posted By pres589
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The Tamron 28-75 f2.8 is very well liked by some folks that shoot with crop bodies. I've never used it. Images taken with it seem good. I would definitely consider that lens over the Pentax 24-70 due to weight, size, and cost advantages held by the Tamron.
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 01-01-2019, 12:31 PM  
HELP with next lens purchase!
Posted By aslyfox
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if you don't mind, please post about your experiences with the company you choose to rent from in this thread:

Information on Businesses that offer cameras and lenses for rent - PentaxForums.com

your review might help others
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 01-01-2019, 09:43 AM  
HELP with next lens purchase!
Posted By C_Jones
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It is a good idea to wait and research like you mentioned. In the case of the 16-85 or any other lens, the use of a flash to accommodate for light in certain sjtuations may also come in handy. I would recommend the Yongnuo YN585 EX for Pentax. It has PTTL (Pentax through the lens metering) which will automatically meter the subject and disperse the correct amount of light for the scene. A majority of the time it is a very effective tool, and the flash can also be used in manual mode. I know your primary financial objective is a lens first, but I will list a shortcut to the product in case you are interested later. I will also list a modifier flash mount in case you ever need something to hold your flash while using an umbrella or other light modifier. Good luck with your decision.

Yongnuo YN585EX Speedlite for Pentax Cameras YN585EX/PENTAX B&H

Godox S-Type Speedlite Bracket for Bowens S B&H Photo Video

---------- Post added 01-01-19 at 12:19 PM ----------

I would not put the 16-85 lens in the category of any other than the HD (high definition) category which it belongs in. It is not comparable to the 18-135 in that way, and is on a different level than non HD Pentax lenses.
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 01-01-2019, 08:12 AM  
HELP with next lens purchase!
Posted By pres589
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Exactly. I also think the Tamron is easier to swing than the Kiron as it's smaller and lighter. I really like how versatile my 90mm f2.5 Adaptall Tamron is and see it as a perfect stand-in for the classic 85mm portrait lenses we hear so much about. The Kiron is good if you're okay with having a stand or tripod to use most any time. I use mine for copying film negatives.
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 01-01-2019, 07:51 AM  
HELP with next lens purchase!
Posted By aslyfox
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oh

sorry at first glance

I read that as " retraining "

and thought - about time :D

wishing all a safe and prosperous 2019
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