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Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 06-12-2019, 01:54 PM  
Lens Hood For DFA 28-105
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 8
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I had been betting on the truck, but no such luck.

It was a lens case that I use for hiking (attach it to the hip strap of my hydration pack) that swallowed the macro lens hood. I was feeling desperate for the 28-105 hood, so I went through every camera bag and lens case I own looking for it.

It turned out B&H offered free shipping for the hood, so I didnít buy anything else. I was sure tempted by a couple of items, but resisted (with effort). It should be here Friday.
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 06-11-2019, 09:44 PM  
Lens Hood For DFA 28-105
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 8
Views: 485
LOL! I wish they had only gotten switched, but the found lens hood was for the DFA 100 macro, so not a chance!
Forum: Pentax KP 06-11-2019, 01:53 PM  
"L" Bracket for KP...
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 37
Views: 4,274
Very neat idea! I have a generic L-bracket that has an Arca-Swiss bracket, which I donít mind. Iíve used it once or twice when I had a K-S1 but didnít like it on the camera, too bulky. I never thought of leaving it in the tripod instead of on the camera. Too clever, a rarely used object just became useful. Thanks!
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 06-11-2019, 09:47 AM  
Lens Hood For DFA 28-105
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 8
Views: 485
Ah, ha! Thank you VERY much!

I had just read a review on Amazon that said it didnít fit their unspecified lens and someone else said it only fit the 18-135. I didnít get as far as the question on B&H that said it would.

Of course, since Iím going to be ordering from B&H, thereís a limited lens I want but donít really need... And I was looking at Pelican cases but bought the Apache case from Harbor Freight, a Pelican case for comparison and extra storage would be cheaper than the lens...

Iíd be better off paying for postage, but whatís the fun in that?
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 06-11-2019, 09:14 AM  
Lens Hood For DFA 28-105
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 8
Views: 485
What is the lens hood that fits/comes with this lens? Mine has gone missing somehow.

Iíve looked around at a couple of websites, but canít seem to figure out which one to get.

Iím in the process of selling the house and becoming a full-time RVer. Which means that I need to reorganize all my stuff and how I carry it the truck. When I unpacked everything I discovered the 28-105 was missing itís hood and I canít find it (but did find the long-time missing hood for another lens).

I want to order a new one as I use it a lot, but canít figure out which one to order.
Forum: Pentax KP 04-06-2019, 05:55 PM  
What lenses do you use on your KP?
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 28
Views: 2,038
I bought the KP last summer to take to Alaska as a second camera. I specifically got it to keep the DA*300 and 1.4 TC on it for wildlife, while I expected to take almost all other photos with the K1. Only it didn't really work out that way - I started to use the KP more as a walk-about camera with the DFA 28-105, but kept wishing I had a zoom for it that was wider.

Now the KP usually has either the DA16-85 (my wider angle solution), the DA*300/1.4 combination or the DFA 100 Macro on it. I have also used the limiteds on it but I have recently been doing mostly travel/landscape and not wanting to take a camera bag with me. I've also found that I am less comfortable shooting a lot with the K1, I really appreciate the smaller size and weight of the KP.
Forum: Pentax KP 01-09-2019, 10:42 PM  
Post Your Best KP Shots
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 1,231
Views: 134,722
I've been using the KP and the 16-85 lens recently, almost exclusively. I've been happy with the results - the combo works well as a travel camera. I went camping for a couple of weeks and came home having made friends with the 16-85 (I bought it around Thanksgiving, so it's new to me).

A slot canyon.



There were some really awesome sunrises.



Second week, different location.



Christmas morning. Fresh snow high up on the mountains.



Footprints in the sand.



And watching the wind wipe them out.



I was glad I had the KP, loved its light-weight while hiking. The 16-85 lens also was excellent for hiking, it became my main lens on the trip. Thanks to all of the people here for both suggesting the KP when my K-S1 died, and also for recommending the 16-85 when I was looking for a nice travel zoom. It works out very well.
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 11-19-2018, 11:45 PM  
DA 16-85 WR,show us what it can do.
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 968
Views: 143,949
Today I had a dentist appointment and I always arrive early because I never know what the traffic is going to be like. I took my new 16-85 lens with the KP to try it out. This is the first time I've used it, and the day was overcast so very flat lighting. My initial thought is that the lens is going to make a good walk-about lens for me, but I'm going to have to use it a lot more to become friends with it (pretty normal for me, and some equipment I never become friends with). It's sharp, a lot sharper than what I remember my 18-55 kit lens was like (gone a long time ago), but I'm not sure it's as sharp as my 28-105 - need to shoot under more varied conditions to tell for sure.

Anyway, here are the ones I liked the best. I thought they were reasonable for a first time out, and shooting a subject I would have otherwise used a 100mm macro lens for.









These are just quick snaps taken as I wandered around for about an hour before seeing the dentist - I didn't see much that really grabbed my attention. I'm feeling unsure of the combination at the moment. I certainly don't hate it, and I don't think it has any issues, at least none that I noticed today. I need to work harder at finding things to shoot.
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 11-08-2018, 07:46 AM  
Has anyone used both the DA 16-85 and DFA 28-105?
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 16
Views: 1,262
Thank you very much for the input! Itís all reassuring and I just ordered it from B&H, their price this week was good enough for me to pull the trigger. Based on one of the posts in the ďshow usĒ thread I added a 3 year warranty, though I donít expect to use it. I donít baby my equipment so itís reassuring to have it in case I have a failure like the one shown.

Itís supposed to arrive Tuesday, so Iíll let you know how it goes.
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 11-07-2018, 08:38 PM  
Has anyone used both the DA 16-85 and DFA 28-105?
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 16
Views: 1,262
Thanks!

Iím not concerned with something wider than 16, I have other options if I really want to go wider (DA15, DA 12-24 and for fun but rarely used DA 10-17). I originally figured I would just use the 28-105 with the KP, but found the field of view too limiting on the wide end. My first thought was to use that as an excuse to buy the DA 20-40 Ltd, but as much as I would like that lens, Iíd still be changing lenses all the time and carrying a heavier camera bag than I should most of the time (itís the heavy camera bag that bothers me the most).

I didnít care for the 18-135 the one time I shot with one. It was OK, but that was about it, thatís why Iím not considering it, and wondered if the 16-85 was better. It sounds like it is.

The funny thing is that the only reason I bought the 28-105 in the first place is that I got it for half price with the K1 at a photo show. I was very surprised just how good that lens is, and how perfect it is for my needs with the K1 once I retired and bought an RV. Before that I had been been using mostly primes.

So it sounds like the 16-85 would be the best lens to meet what I really want/need.
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 11-07-2018, 02:58 PM  
Has anyone used both the DA 16-85 and DFA 28-105?
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 16
Views: 1,262
Rather than start a new thread on this topic, I thought maybe changing the scope of this one slightly would make sense. I'm interested in the same two lenses, but starting with the 28-105, not the 16-85.

In my case, I really want a lens that will be as good on a KP as the 28-105 is on a K1, covering wide as well as medium telephoto. I want to use it for tourist walk-about and landscape, so speed isn't an issue (I have primes if I need extra speed).

As background, up until this spring I was using the K1 and 28-105 almost exclusively, loved that combination and didn't miss my fast primes at all. I bought the KP as a dedicated telephoto set-up for a trip to Alaska and as a back-up camera to the K1. I found myself in Alaska using the KP as a single walk-about camera because the ergonomics work better for me. But I got frustrated as the 28-105 isn't as wide as I wanted (or was used to) and I didn't want to keep changing lenses while playing the tourist.

Would the 16-85 on the KP be the best solution to match the what I have with the K1/28-105 combination? Or is there a different lens I should be looking at?
Forum: Pentax KP 11-07-2018, 02:09 PM  
Post Your Best KP Shots
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 1,231
Views: 134,722
I bought the KP mostly for a trip last summer - my plan was to use it with the DA300 and DA1.4 TC. It was perfect for that - I was much happier than if I had bought a DFA 150-450 and a second K1.

I've continued to use the combination, most recently at an urban campground, to capture my next site neighbor, Frankie.





The lighting was very harsh - very early afternoon in the desert. As you can see from the second one, Frankie is a working girl, her handler has a contract with a nearby landfill to help control wild birds there. I spent a very pleasant afternoon talking to him.
Forum: Pentax Price Watch 11-06-2018, 07:40 AM  
US Pentax Deal Roundup - Week of November 5, 2018
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 4
Views: 3,514
Just noticed that. Will it stay at $597 for a couple of days more? I canít buy it until Friday.
Forum: Pentax KP 08-28-2018, 09:20 PM  
Post Your Best KP Shots
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 1,231
Views: 134,722
Right guy, I enjoyed his entertainment while we were waiting for the train to load. I enjoyed the dredge as well as the Discovery and Fairbanks in general.

Thanks for the compliments about the wildlife - it's not my usual thing and I'm not very skilled at it. I was lucky with the sea otter, the pilot of the Lu-Lu Belle got pretty close to them.
Forum: Pentax KP 08-26-2018, 04:28 PM  
Post Your Best KP Shots
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 1,231
Views: 134,722
I've been happily using my KP along with a K1 this summer. I've only taken snaps since I'm traveling with others, but I think a couple of them are reasonable.

For some reason I like this photo. Not quite sure why, but I like it (KP, DFA 28-105)



Denali:



I've been mostly using the KP with the DA*300 and 1.4TC, a good combination. I've even managed to get a few pictures of wild things, though not many good ones. I liked the puffins.



Sea Otter



Other things:







Forum: Pentax KP 07-04-2018, 08:46 AM  
Post Your Best KP Shots
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 1,231
Views: 134,722
All of these are so impressive! While Iím really enjoying this camera, I have taken nothing thatís good. Need to spend some time getting inspired by all of you!
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 06-16-2018, 12:50 PM  
Should I buy K-3ii or try to like KP or ?
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 56
Views: 4,082
Handling is very important. I loved the KS-1 but found the K3 too heavy and awkward for me, and was very happy to sell it.

So it isnít surprising that I love the KP. I prefer the middle grip, though the small grip reminded me more of the S1 which essentially doesnít have a grip.

The funny thing is that I went to a photo show right after the K1 came out. My intention was to go, handle it and convince myself that it was too big and heavy for me, especially considering that I had given up on the K3. Unfortunately I found the K1 very well balanced and pretty comfortable for me to handle, in spite of its size and weight.

Get which one feels more comfortable for you. Iím finding Iím using the K1 less now that I have the KP, but if you arenít comfortable with it, donít buy it.
Forum: Pentax KP 04-11-2018, 09:14 PM  
Just bought a KP have I made the right decision?
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 52
Views: 5,674
I love my KP. Right now itís my main camera, though thatís not why I bought the camera.

I love the ergonomics of the KP, it has all the things I liked about the K-S1 (small size and relatively small weight), along with better grip (Iím using the middle grip, perfect for my small hands) and two control wheels. My other camera is a K1, which I find more comfortable than the K3, strange for someone like me who has is small with small hands.

I bought it to use primarily with the 1.4 TC and DA300 then keep the 28-105 on the K1 as I drive the Alaskan Highway this summer. Iím beginning to think that the KP is going to get a lot more use with the Limited lenses as a walk-about camera than I had originally expected. It hasnít taken me long to adjust to the controls and they are similar enough to the K1 that going back and forth between cameras isnít confusing. Iím really happy, a lot happier than I had expected to be when I first started looking for a second camera and long telephoto option.

But the one thing Iíve learned about cameras, whatís perfect for one person is wrong for someone else. The KPís ergonomics are different than any of the other Pentax cameras Iíve owned, and they turn out to be just about perfect for me. Just my opinion but I think the grip and size makes it closer to the K-S1 than any other Pentax dSLR Iíve owned, but much, much better.

Iím a very happy camper.
Forum: Pentax KP 04-06-2018, 05:03 PM  
KP and Tripod Plates
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 14
Views: 1,511
An update: While using the plate with the lip on the side, a heavy lens and TC mounted and tilted to the opposite side from the lip, the camera rotated as it slipped a bit away from the lip. I guess the plateís screw wasnít as tight as it should have been, but it showed up the weakness of the setup.

So I ordered the 60mm tripod plate in the link above. When I put it on the camera, I saw that the camera isnít quite flat from the edge of the body to the lens mount. The slope isnít much, I hadnít noticed it until I put the plate on. The lip barely reaches the camera, but at least it doesnít touch or interfere with the lens. So I tried it out with my macro lens, and pulled out my macro rails to see how all of this could work. The first thing I discovered is that while the fact the 60mm plateís orientation is fine with a ball head, it goes the wrong way for macro rails. I rather smiled at this, years ago my late hubby bought me my rails and ordered a slightly different one than I had wanted. The one he got had a second piece that fits on top of the QR clamp and changes the orientation so you could use the rails with a lens that had its own foot (itís very fancy). I had stuck that second piece away, I now had a use for a dust collector!

Then I hit a second snag - I had heard that there could be problems with plates not made by your head/clamp manufacturer. I havenít had a problem in the past, I have heads, L-brackets and plates from 3 different manufacturers and they are interchangeable without any wobble or issue. However, this plate didnít quite fit right on the small head I tried it on or the macro rails (same manufacturer). So I think Iím going back to the plate with the side lip.

If anyone is interested in photos of the camera and the issues Iíve found, I can take some tomorrow. The past 2 days Iíve been trying to wrap my stubborn mind around 12 volt solar systems. My head now hurts from that, and Iíd much rather go back to taking pictures. At least thatís something I understand!
Forum: Pentax KP 03-26-2018, 08:50 PM  
Post Your Best KP Shots
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 1,231
Views: 134,722
I've only had the KP for a couple of days and am mostly just playing around with it. But here are my best ones so far:





One of the most common birds in my area.

Forum: Pentax KP 03-26-2018, 06:32 PM  
KP and Tripod Plates
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 14
Views: 1,511
Just got back from San Luis Obispo, bought more than just the plate and spent more money than I should have (so what else is new). But I found a better, but not perfect, solution, and returned the generic plate. I probably should have just returned the one plate and walked out when I realized they didn't have anything that would be the perfect solution. But didn't - instead, I tried a couple of other options and ended up buying one that will work for me (it wouldn't for some). It does not block the battery compartment or any other doors or buttons. It won't rotate when the camera is at funny angles. It is NOT perfectly aligned with the lens.

This new plate has a removable lip that attaches to the side of the plate, next to the camera's side. I tried the plate with the lip on the front but it's tight against the lens and wouldn't allow for an aperture ring to operate. It's not long enough to sit properly aligned with the axis of the lens - but it comes close and since I don't shoot panoramas, it's close enough for me. It's fine for macro and using most lenses, and if I'm going to put the DA300/1.4 on the tripod, I'll use the lens's foot and plate.

I think that the 60mm plate linked to above would be much closer to the perfect solution as far as placement on the camera. As I said, I would have just returned the wrong plate and walked out, but as soon as I walked in, I spotted something that I immediately lusted after, a significant upgrade of something I have.

Here's the new plate mounted on the camera. You can see that the removable lip is pretty substantial and is contoured to help stop any rotation.



It really needs to be longer, so that it can properly cover the center of the lens - the tripod will be a little to one side. I can get it very close to the center, I think right at the center but am not sure. As I said, I don't shoot panoramas and this camera is light enough that all of my heads will hold it even if it is a little to one side.

Looking down on the lip, showing how it attaches to the plate and how it interacts with the camera:



That one was manually focused, the camera didn't want to lock focus on the lip, and my eyesight isn't as good as it once was.

The plate is the kind that have the small stop-screws that keep it from sliding off if you don't have the quick release mount open all the way. You can see one of them just below the lip. If I put the plate against the head's stop for that screw on the other side (mounted like you see it here), it looks like it is just under the lens. It seems to be enough to balance the camera, but not enough to be able to align the centerline of the lens perhaps.



And finally, I already have a clunky L-Bracket option, and it seems to work well enough for macro. Not elegant, but functional for times when time isn't a big deal (to me, macro is pretty leisurely, slow and deliberate, between getting everything set up and in focus).



It all seems to work well with my old light-weight table top tripod. I haven't used it much since getting a dSLR - it's really too small and light-weight to be completely reliable. But using it with the LP and this generic L-Bracket, I can see myself using it more this summer.

I know it would not work for panorama shooting. And if I had seen a heavier-weight table top tripod today I would have been very tempted to get one, but they didn't have any out (I did look) but didn't ask about them.

So what do you think of this solution? I think it will work well for me. And sadly, this is probably the last time I'll visit the company showroom - they said they are aiming to be moved by the end of August (sigh). Oh well, if they aren't so close, then I won't be tempted to buy extra items, like I did today...
Forum: Pentax KP 03-26-2018, 05:44 AM  
KP and Tripod Plates
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 14
Views: 1,511
Iíll be interested in how it works out, my tape measure says 40mm wouldnít reach all the way to the back of the camera, so will it balance the camera properly on the tripod? This is what I was considering as a possible solution but am still planning a trip to SLO this morning. Both the DA 300 and 1.7 AFA are in my bag.
Forum: Pentax KP 03-24-2018, 12:05 PM  
"L" Bracket for KP...
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 37
Views: 4,274
While I like the looks of that one, and it seems to have a removable lip, I'm not sure it would work particularly well on the KP. I much prefer my tripod plates to have lips, or at least not rotate at all - I'd rather hand-hold a camera when shooting macros than get everything lined up in the viewfinder, only to have the camera shift the minute you let go. That leaves out the Sony 6300 L-bracket as the lip is on the front of the bracket (I looked at a different manufacturer's L-Bracket but the one linked to above is the same) so it would have to be removed completely.

Being able to access the battery is less critical on the KP than it was on the K-S1 where the card was in the same compartment, but it would still be nice - can't tell you how often I've been hiking and had to change batteries. The last thing I'd want to do is have to dig out the wrench as well as the new battery, I'd probably drop the wrench and lose it in pine needles or something. But I'd be willing to trade battery access for a properly fitting plate or L-bracket.

I started a different thread about trying to find a simple plate for the KP - I now have 2 different ones and both interfere with the folding screen on the back. If I can find a regular plate, I have a generic L-Bracket with an Arca-Swiss quick release for a camera to mount on. It's big, bulky and with the pull out knob awkward to carry/leave on the camera. But it works great IF you have a proper plate on the camera (used it on the K-S1).

A stupid idea, but if I can't find anything, what about if I were to buy a generic plate without a lip and stick velcro on the camera and plate? That would introduce all the complication of adhesive and probably not solve the problem, I suspect.

I'd love to know if anyone finds a solution anywhere. None of the manufacturers will make one unless there's enough demand for something - they do need to make enough on sales to cover their design and manufacturing costs.
Forum: Pentax KP 03-24-2018, 08:13 AM  
KP and Tripod Plates
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 14
Views: 1,511
I read through the L-bracket thread first and noticed that no one had a solution, so I was concentrating strictly on just a tripod plate.



Could you mill down the side of the lip, so that it's not quite as thick? I'm not willing to abandon the lip, I could potentially buy some inexpensive flat plate that's Arca-Swiss compatible and see if it works, before doing away with the lip on the small plate I have. (Added - I see you can - VERY cool!).

Maybe I should re-think my use of the camera and why I got it as it applies to using it on a tripod. I'm going on a trip to Alaska and thought the 150-450 might be a good idea, but also wanted a back-up camera. Someone suggested the KP with the DA300 and 1.4 TC, which sounded a lot more reasonable to me than a K1ii/150-450 combination (both weight and cost-wise!).

So I expect that most of the time this summer the KP will have the DA300/TC on it, with it's own tripod foot for times when I want to put it on some type of support.

But then, I also love shooting macro but don't often bother when I'm being a tourist. However, with two cameras, I can see using the KP with the DA100 macro WR on a regular basis, which WOULD require using the camera's tripod mount. When I first started getting into photography, I used an old tripod that had a flat plate and couldn't manage to get it tight enough to stop the camera from rotating on the plate, don't want to go back there.

My biggest priority is to have an Arca-Swiss tripod plate that won't allow the camera to shift/rotate when mounted. The plate will need to be Arca-Swiss since I have both ball heads and macro rails that use that quick-release system. I also have a generic L-bracket that has the Arca-Swiss knob so that a camera with a plate can be mounted on it - a very bulky solution for the camera but with a good plate on the camera, good for macro shooting (I used it with the K-S1). It's not something that I'd leave mounted on a camera, like an L-bracket made specifically for a camera. But with a good plate, it works well enough.

Having a mounting point for a strap would be nice. The Peak Design system is really interesting, but I didn't think their anchor point would work as a tripod plate - what I saw didn't mention it being Arca-Swiss compatible and it looked too thick for a quick disconnect clamp to attach to. I've been using Op/Tech sling straps for a while now, and just bought some accessories so I can use the camera on either shoulder or on a double harness. Though I have to admit, after trying it out with the KP and DA300/1.7 combination, I'm going to look at their lens support strap (is the 1.4 TC going to be any different? Mine is still in transit).

Now that I've had a chance to play with the KP and some of my lenses - like the K-S1 it is sure nice to use with the limited lenses, and I could potentially see myself using it much more than I had originally planned.

When I talked to the company where I bought the plate from, they said their showroom was still open (for now) though they are in the process of moving to Lehi, Utah, from San Luis Obispo. The more I think about it, the more I think I'll take a day trip there Monday with the camera and see if they have any other plate that might be between the small one and the bigger new one, or if they have a Sony /A63000 L-Bracket (I missed that, looked mostly at the discussion about the generic one they were talking about cutting down). I imagine there will be a lot more cameras coming down the pike that would have the same issue, so perhaps they'll have new products after they move. Besides, I can stop at Pismo Beach on the way home, have some outstanding clam chowder and try the KP/DA300/1.7 AFA combination on some surfing photos. Try the electronic shutter, see if it makes much difference for shooting speed (having taken many ocean pictures that only have some splash where the surfer had been a moment before).

---------- Post added 03-24-18 at 08:17 AM ----------



I just checked out the company website and their particular A6300 L-bracket has the lip on the front of the mount - it would definitely not work with the KP.
Forum: Pentax KP 03-23-2018, 05:24 PM  
KP and Tripod Plates
Posted By mtngal
Replies: 14
Views: 1,511
I bought a KP a couple of days ago and am now in search of the perfect (or at least useable) tripod plate for the KP, something that's turning out to be harder than I had expected.

When I bought the K-S1 I found a small plate that worked quite well - it allowed me to access the battery/card door and has a lip so the camera doesn't rotate on the tripod (something necessary since there's no L-bracket for it).

There was something I was a bit concerned about when I put it on the KP, so I called the company where I've been buying my plates from and asked about it. They suggested a different plate, which arrived today. However, I think it's worse than the one I originally had, though it does have a place to attach a camera strap on it, something my little one does not.

Here are photos of the camera and what's bothering me. It's a small thing and I'm not entirely sure whether these pictures really show it. Also, I'd like your opinions about whether my concern might be groundless with one or the other of the plates - I prefer to leave plates or L-brackets on all the time because otherwise I'll have the tripod but no plate with me.

Here's the bottom of the KP, showing the lack of a lip on the front of the camera:



The back and bottom of the camera.



Note that there's sort-of a cut-out along the bottom to make it easier to flip up the screen. It doesn't go the whole way across the screen's opening, you can see small indents on either side of the cut-out. Also note the notches on the screen's frame, they are cut out so that the screen fits flush against the camera back, rather than resting on those hinges which are part of the frame that tilts out so you can use the camera over your head.

Here's my little plate mounted one way on the camera. The lip of the plate is resting on the screen's frame, so you can't flip the screen up. I think it would work this way but I'm not as flexible as I once was and expect I'll be flipping the screen often (I do with the K1).



Here it is mounted with the lip against the camera back, not the screen.



The lip interferes with the screen sitting flush against the camera back when it's closed:



But otherwise it works great - it doesn't block the battery compartment and the lip stops the camera from rotating. I'm concerned about leaving it on the camera all the time though - the screen no longer fits flush against the camera and I'm afraid I'll crack it. One of the things you can see is that the plate is small enough to fit between the indents on the camera back.

Here's a photo of the new one next to my little one.



I immediately liked the hole for attaching a camera strap on either side of the bracket.

Here's a closer shot of the camera and how the screen sits against the back of the camera without either plate mounted.



The small round thing at the bottom of the photo is the hinge for the back frame (it folds out so you can flip the screen down, for shooting over your head), and the screen frame has notches so the screen doesn't sit on them. When I first looked at the camera I thought they were hinges for the screen itself, they almost look like they are mounted to the screen's frame rather than to the camera and a separate frame.

Here is the small plate mounted, and it shows that the screen isn't flush any more - it's hitting the lip and you can see the gap between the hinge and the screen. It isn't much, but it is noticeable.



Here's the larger plate mounted.



The plate is wider than the cut-out on the back of the camera for your fingers to access the screen. Looking at the notches for the frame's hinge, it is further out than the little one. Also, it won't clear the battery compartment door - almost but not enough.



I can't decide whether it would be better to use the big one - the screen hits the lip along the whole width of the lip, which is most of the screen's frame. Would the fact it's wider be better than having the frame hit a smaller spot, pretty much in the center of the plastic, with less support further out (though the gap is smaller)?

My initial thought is that I should take a trip Monday to the company's showroom and see if they have anything that would work better. I was originally going to either exchange or return the new one, but would it be better than the little one, given that the pressure is spread out further? If I can't leave it on the camera full-time the advantage of the strap cut-out goes away so I guess returning it makes the most sense.

I'm disappointed and wondering if anyone else would make a lipped tripod plate that wouldn't interfere with the tilting screen.
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