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Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals 09-06-2018, 08:44 PM  
So glad Pentax isn't making a mirrorless now!
Posted By troika
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Because since they released these cameras we can't stop talking about it on Pentax Forums. I shoot Pentax because of the legacy glass and all that they have built to help me continue using it, weather sealing, external control ergonomics, form factor, and great view finders.


But, we've had an "if Pentax doesn't follow suit!, we're all doomed!" obsession this month.

That's why.
Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals 09-06-2018, 07:33 PM  
So glad Pentax isn't making a mirrorless now!
Posted By troika
Replies: 69
Views: 4,103
I've used adaptors and it doesn't appeal to me. I value native lens mounts. I use legacy Pentax and Tokina K-Mount and F and FA series lenses and don't feel crippled at all.

It all comes down to preference and priorities. I'm pretty happy with Pentax.
Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals 09-06-2018, 06:46 PM  
So glad Pentax isn't making a mirrorless now!
Posted By troika
Replies: 69
Views: 4,103
But Nikon's new MILC is a new mount, incompatible with Nikon dSLR lenses as is Canon's new offering.
Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals 09-06-2018, 04:21 PM  
So glad Pentax isn't making a mirrorless now!
Posted By troika
Replies: 69
Views: 4,103
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Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals 09-06-2018, 08:12 AM  
So glad Pentax isn't making a mirrorless now!
Posted By troika
Replies: 69
Views: 4,103
Thanks for the education on that. Didn't know much about Nikon.
Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals 09-05-2018, 05:45 PM  
So glad Pentax isn't making a mirrorless now!
Posted By troika
Replies: 69
Views: 4,103
I had an AE-1 Program with some FD lenses (my dad's), so I knew that history, but don't know as much about Nikon. But, it seems that even before this mirrorless camera, there were multiple Nikon mounts. Are there FF and crop lenses different mounts? Just searching Adorama it seems to specify which Nikon dSLR goes with which lenses. I feel like I read an article on various Nikon mounts the referenced changes over time as well.

But, I could be wrong.
Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals 09-05-2018, 03:01 PM  
So glad Pentax isn't making a mirrorless now!
Posted By troika
Replies: 69
Views: 4,103
In a lot of ways, it's good innovation. You don't really even need a shutter anymore, that's a holdover from film. You can simply tell the sensor when to blink on and off and for what duration. In theory, the lack of mirror saves space, but I think that advantage is quickly lost when you start mounting lenses to it.


The big disadvantages to me are two of the things that have me in Pentax. You can't have an optical viewfinder without a mirror. You either frame and focus in live view, like you did with the K-01 and you do with the Q or you have an electronic viewfinder, which makes the camera bigger again, but it's essentially a screen inside an eyepiece. I had a fuji camera years ago with one and hated it. They've gotten better, but still don't feel like home to me.

The other disadvantage is that Sony had no legacy glass to dis-infranchise, so everyone buying into it was buying into a new system anyway. Nikon and Canon's offerings introduced a new lens mount for that system that isn't compatible with their dSLR cousins. To my knowledge the Pentax K-01 is the only mirrorless that was at least ASP-C in sensor size that worked with the dSLR lens mount. That made it a compelling travel camera for people with larger, heavier Pentax dSLRs, but it was criticized for being big and ugly, by comparison and didn't do well enough to make more than one version of.

I think the KP is there to scratch that itch now. A K1 and a KP share the same lenses, but exist in different form factors and at different price points...and they both have really good optical view finders.
Forum: Photographic Industry and Professionals 09-05-2018, 02:46 PM  
So glad Pentax isn't making a mirrorless now!
Posted By troika
Replies: 69
Views: 4,103
There is a discussion in another thread where there are strong opinions that unless Pentax also does this, they are doomed. But, reviews of the Nikon and Canon offerings aren't stellar. An important thing to notice is that both Nikon and Canon offerings introduce a new lens mount. Pentax is built around 40 years of legacy glass and honestly, if I felt like I had to have a FF mirrorless camera and had to start over with lenses anyway, I may as well look at Sony.

Canon and Nikon have long, storied histories of introducing new lens mounts and abandoning their legacy glass or requiring adapters, so maybe their faithful won't care as much.

I also notice that the lenses for those cameras are not small. You can compare a A7 to a K1 on size and that A7 looks pretty compelling, but a K1 with an F 70-210 vs an A7 with a modern equivalent and that size advantage goes away. There's also a matter of cost, factoring in a strategy of which lenses you'll want to acquire to make a kit.

I'm with you guys. If Pentax released their FF Mirrorless camera now, they'd be an also-ran. It's too late. It won't appeal to Pentax dSLR users with a bag full of lenses that won't be compatible and it won't lure people from those other systems.


We've got a K1ii. The K3 is due for an update. The KP is compelling in that smaller, travel camera with a pro-build and image quality field and we have some very solid enthusiast models, all sharing K-Mount.

Give us a new ASP-C flagship, evolve the KP to either be a smaller scale dSLR or drop the viewfinder and make it a K-01 like camera, if you must. It could either have the new ASP-C sensor or FF, but keep K-Mount or it's not Pentax, as far as I am concerned.

Personally, I like optical viewfinders, but that's a preference.
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