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Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 05-01-2017, 07:03 PM  
Any significant improvement in mid ISO quality since K5?
Posted By PPPPPP42
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I am confused, in those 5 shots I would say the K5 shot was clearly the best because its the only one that captured detail instead of erasing it as was mentioned.
Any camera can process out all the noise if it goes far enough, but that's the opposite of what I want as I am essentially taking a picture of noise when doing astrophotography and always end up working exclusively with the raws.


I am mainly interested in the cameras abilities to create as clean a raw as possible and not its ability to clean up its mess.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 04-30-2017, 07:29 AM  
Any significant improvement in mid ISO quality since K5?
Posted By PPPPPP42
Replies: 22
Views: 1,578
I know when I got my used K5 to replace my K20D the differences in image quality in the 800 to 3200 ISO range were really impressive to the point of 800 on the K20D looking like 1600 or 3200 on the K5.
But I think the K5 was a big jump specifically in that area more than previous newer models.

I know the Pentax cameras go to ISO 100000008 now but all useless gimicky numbers aside whats the quality improvement in the normal range.


I am using the upper middle ISO range on my K5 for astrophotography with an OGPS1 and pixelation and noise are really bad to have in the shots, especially if I want to crop on a specific object. I know there are some software solutions that actually work on these pictures without knocking out stars as noise, but its better to just start with a cleaner image.


I am basically trying to decide if I should replace my K5. Already have a K-1 in the future plans simply for FOV since I am too much a film era shooter, but if its way better ISO wise maybe I should push the upgrade date up. As I understand it just having the larger sensor would improve low light sensitivity for various reasons.
Forum: Sold Items 03-06-2017, 05:42 PM  
For Sale - Sold: CLA'd Super Program, A50 1.4 Lens, AF280T Flash & camera case.
Posted By PPPPPP42
Replies: 3
Views: 500
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CLA'd Super Program, A50 1.4 Lens, AF280T Flash & camera case.

Asking Price
100.00 USD

Item Location
Rice Lake (United States)

Item Description
This is a set all designed by Pentax to work perfectly together that I bought from another board member awhile back.
The camera has been CLA'd and I believe when I bought this one the previous owner sent along an invoice from Eric, but I don't seem to have it anymore.

Overall everything is in good working condition and the camera has new batteries. The lens has a filter on it so the glass is in good shape.
Not breaking these up to sell as I don't want to get rid of them piecemeal.

Comes with the original Leather case and strap, caps and the manuals for the flash and camera body.

$100 Shipped.

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Sold fully functional but as is unless something is totally misrepresented.

Please send me a private message if interested in the item!
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 12-26-2016, 01:56 PM  
Pentax for beginner
Posted By PPPPPP42
Replies: 24
Views: 1,065
Unless the goal is to deliberately buy a camera body to use just for now while saving up for a better one like a K1 later, the question of what a beginner would use is irrelevant.
Buy once and grow into the advanced features as you need them rather than replacing the whole body when you want to learn them.

The extra external buttons on a high end body are the number one absolute must have feature that would prevent me from ever getting a budget body.
I had no idea how critical an actual ISO button was to me until I replaced my K20D with a K5.

If you want to go super cheap pick up a used K5IIs, you get everything the current high end stuff has with a sensor that still does more than what is probably required unless you are making massive prints. I still haven't outgrown my original K5 though I desperately want a K1 since I started with film and despise the tiny FOV I have now, but that's a whole nother thread.
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 11-28-2016, 08:39 PM  
I really would love a DFA 24-135 f/4 WR. Too bad it doesn't exist.
Posted By PPPPPP42
Replies: 26
Views: 1,246
It would be big, heavy and expensive.
Its just too big a range to cover in a fixed aperture (even F4) without the physical size getting up there and to keep the quality up across that range would make it expensive too.

There was an A28-135 F4 but it weighed 820 grams and in August 1985 cost $299 which was more than $100 over the cost of any other zoom, and only $20 less than the A*85 F1.4 and A135 F1.8 higher end primes. There was a macro function in that lens that would be omitted in a new lens, but the new lens would have the weight and size of the AF mechanism added so I would imagine that would be something of a wash for comparison.

The only stuff in the FA range that was even close was either cheap crap variable apertures or was only 28-70 F4 so I have no idea what something like that would really weigh or cost.
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 11-28-2016, 05:32 PM  
Buying used FF lenses. What options ?
Posted By PPPPPP42
Replies: 13
Views: 872
Indeed, if you want cheap the A50 1.7 can be had for pocket change and still give prime quality results. Plus its an A series so its just like a modern lens in every function except having to manually focus.
The A100 F2.8 is more in the focal range you were looking at, and I just checked, you can find them on Ebay for $220 shipped in good shape right this second (hopefully similar on that side of the pond).

If you want to avoid new prices but don't mind focusing I would recommend sticking with A series primes. I own a number of good K and M series lenses for use on my film cameras, but they are just too putzy to work with on a DSLR (green button metering annoys me). Though I do use my K135 F2.5 for astro work on the DSLR since its got the best edge sharpness and lack of distortion of anything in that range.

You must have one hell of a long view to be using a 100mm for landscape work even with the K-1's FOV.
Forum: General Photography 08-26-2016, 05:37 PM  
Has PentaxForums changed since the K-1?
Posted By PPPPPP42
Replies: 155
Views: 6,091
Go back to shooting film, they tend to be a fairly laid back bunch in their hidey hole of a sub forum (technically a few sub forums) and despite the many opinions things stay pretty mellow.
Maybe its because once you take pointless crap like sensor resolution and auto anything out of the equation you are left with nothing but the skill and creativity of the photographer to discuss.

Imagine that, a photography forum about photographs. Blows the mind.

Plus with film if you run into an uppity Canikon user with a $3000 digital FF in the field you can just take your film body by the neck strap and crack them upside the head with it and keep on shooting with it to display the superior build quality of a Pentax.
Forum: Pentax Film SLR Discussion 08-18-2016, 02:27 PM  
K-Mount Film SLR Suggestions?
Posted By PPPPPP42
Replies: 92
Views: 5,826
Having used the super program for many years I can tell you that its only weaknesses are a shutter button half press and button on the side of the lens mount area for turning the light on (and also displaying exposure info like the half press) that both have a tendency to oxidize up on the contacts and get fiddly. If both buttons work reliably with only a light press and the light seals on the body are still good they last a long time.
They are small, light, super easy to hold in one hand and have a view finder that is like a bay window with a bright extremely responsive screen. It actually has the 1/2000 shutter speed that most of the mechanical bodies don't due to the type of steel shutter curtain used which is SUPER handy for using 400 ISO film on bright sunny days for more versatility all around in variable lighting or for just stopping motion that much better.
It also has the old school all metal, drop it down the stairs durability that the later plastic fantastic cameras did away with. The film winder lever is also a super short stroke (less than 90 degrees as I recall) so its much more usable than the older long throw manual winder bodies.
The 2 buttons on top to control shutter speed in manual modes are worlds easier than the clunky dial the MX I now use has, you can hold the camera with one hand and use the same hand to adjust it with one finger.

I only stopped using my Super Program because I started shooting all manual and with that body you can only adjust exposure by full stops in manual mode even though the auto system can do it by 1/3 stops. A stupid oversight that has always pissed me off on an otherwise near perfect body. Not the end of the world though as most film can be rounded to the nearest full stop and still be developed perfectly correct.
Otherwise wonderful camera and they 280T flash I have that works in full ttl auto with it and the A lenses is dirt cheap and capable.
Forum: Repairs and Warranty Service 08-17-2016, 08:25 PM  
Are the 2-year Pentax extended warranties still available ?
Posted By PPPPPP42
Replies: 59
Views: 3,494
I have found the best Pentax warranty is buying a used camera that's a few years old and was originally manufactured at least 6 months after initial release. They all seem to either be crap very quickly or last forever, which would suggest quality control rather than design issues are more common.

I think if I were buying new I would be willing to buy a K-1 on black Friday and just stick with the 1 year warranty since most QC bugs show up by then if you really use the crap out of it.
Forum: Post Your Photos! 03-17-2016, 12:55 PM  
Machinery Train in snow.
Posted By PPPPPP42
Replies: 5
Views: 459
If it looks like its turning its probably because the cabs on those models are much wider than the main body with the engine inside. The weather sort of hides that so it may look confusing. Here is another picture of it (not mine).
CN 3026
I was somewhat surprised that the snow showed up, but they were slowly falling really fat flakes (its been alternating between rain and snow somewhat in the past week) and the train was oncoming so I shot it from farther away with a longer lens which seems to have kept it reasonably free from motion blur despite the much too slow shutter speed. I didn't really fiddle with the settings since I heard the train horn when I was in the area and just rushed to a known position by the tracks and shot on P without overriding anything. I had no idea it was apparently at ISO 100 on a dark overcast snowy day until I looked at the exif data and then just scratched my head as to how it possibly could have worked out.
Actually I just realized I can't seem to view that data from this post like I swear you used to be able to with having manually added it, it was: ISO 100, F4.5, 1/200th, at 140mm which is wide open on the FA80-320. With the lighting and the way those trains blow through there at high speed plus the falling snow those settings totally should have produced a mess of flare and motion blur, especially on a lens I got for $30 as I recall. I think maybe the storm turns most of the defects into artistic effects.
Forum: Post Your Photos! 03-16-2016, 04:33 PM  
Machinery Train in snow.
Posted By PPPPPP42
Replies: 5
Views: 459
Normally I can't get snow to cooperate with anything else in the frame. Guess it worked OK. I had to trim the edges a bit to level it, otherwise this is straight out of the camera. No skill required for this one.
Forum: Digital Processing, Software, and Printing 01-12-2016, 11:32 AM  
42 MP Sensor = Perfection for Printing LARGE
Posted By PPPPPP42
Replies: 36
Views: 3,147
I agree on both these points.

I also was amused by Digitalis, large format film still shocks the hell out of me with its ridiculous level of detail in enlargements on such an old medium. I feel like we are still chasing with digital, what film did naturally decades ago. Too bad I don't have the skill to use anything larger than 35mm B&W.

On the general topic of buyers preference in resolution, It seems to my uneducated point of view that most people who prefer photographs over other art forms (paintings, ect) are looking for as perfect a reproduction as possible of the scene (creative editing and photoshop work aside) so highest resolution is the best to them. Its not really "art" in the traditional composition quality over image quality sense of the word that they want.
Forum: Digital Processing, Software, and Printing 01-12-2016, 11:16 AM  
Lightroom or Creative Cloud
Posted By PPPPPP42
Replies: 46
Views: 2,882
I always found it a bit odd that at the comical profit margins adobe has, someone else hasn't made essentially the same software for half the price.

Even at half price you would still make so much on each copy that you could afford to hire all the best developers and programmers and still turn a healthy profit.

With supply and demand the adobe monopoly technically shouldn't exist, even Microsoft can't charge that ridiculously much for an operating system that is much more critical to many more people and takes far more development and constant work to boot.

That said I just downloaded a free copy of paint.net for my editing. Subscriptions are for magazines and services, so until they start editing the pictures for you I will take my software in a hard copy that expires when I tell it to, thank you very much.

Also I don't think i have ever taken a picture so important (or so badly shot) that it needs photoshops level of tools. There's a lot of work that's easier to do correctly in pre, than fix in post.
Of course heavily edited images seem to be what buyers of photos expect these days so what do I know.
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 10-18-2015, 06:16 PM  
Going Crazy Getting Manual Focus Lens to Work
Posted By PPPPPP42
Replies: 30
Views: 1,675
Welcome to Pentax forums, where you never know which topics will blow up into a heated debate and then go rather off topic. :)

I am unclear on exactly which lens you have.
Just to restate, if it has and A setting just set it to A and leave it there and its 100% like any other new lens with the exception of possibly having to manually focus.

If you wanted to do all settings manually like an old film camera you set the camera to M mode and use the front and rear dials to control aperture and shutter speed. The camera will stop the lens down to whatever aperture you indicate when it takes the picture. Its not like an old film camera where you have to physically turn the dial on the lens to override the aperture setting.
You could also just leave the camera in automatic (green) mode and have it do 100% everything. Or use the various other modes to override some settings while letting the camera do others.

If the camera seems too complex just use automatic (green) mode and bring the manual with on the trip, then when its not doing what you want just look up how to override that one thing. Its totally impossible to learn to use everything at the same time, the manuals are really crappy for that.
If you are not familiar with basic photography just leave it on automatic (green) mode until you have studied up or you wont even know what to start adjusting and things will turn into a mess.

If you really wanted a camera that is always on automatic a DSLR might not be the best choice as its big and clunky and 90% features you would never use.
Also I should mention if that lens is your only lens you will definitely need a wider zoom lens to go with it like the 18-55 WR kit lens or something.

You may want to back up and start by stating your previous camera experience level and what you intend to do with a camera in the long run if you want suggestions on what is right for you.
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 10-17-2015, 05:18 PM  
Going Crazy Getting Manual Focus Lens to Work
Posted By PPPPPP42
Replies: 30
Views: 1,675
You are getting your topics crossed up a bit. If the lens has an A setting on the aperture ring then set it and leave it there and it should operate like any modern lens with the exception of needing to focus manually. If you want to manually set aperture on a lens with the A setting you use the dials on the camera to change it electronically, not turning the ring on the lens.
The green button is used for lenses without the A setting where you have to set the aperture on the lens itself. Then you also need to set that permission in the camera since without the A setting the lens isn't communicating properly with the camera.
Forum: Pentax Camera and Field Accessories 10-06-2015, 08:05 AM  
Durability of Pentax spotmeter V vs digital?
Posted By PPPPPP42
Replies: 7
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I've already done my homework and determined that the Pentax spotmeter V is everything I need and there is no reason to pay at least double for the Pentax digital spotmeter with the exception of one issue.

In the many threads on the topic several threads mention that the spotmeter V is more prone to get knocked out of calibration by bumps and bangs than the digital.

Does anyone have actual experience to back that up or is it just one of those things that everybody knows because people keep repeating it?
I'm not expecting to drop it on concrete but it would be nice to not have to worry about it as much since it will be carried on a lanyard around my neck and probably bounced all over the place and smacked into things in mishaps.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 05-27-2015, 08:08 AM  
K200D forced retirement, Upgrade Choices?
Posted By PPPPPP42
Replies: 19
Views: 2,072
Just to add another opinion to the scales:
I loved earlier Pentax DSLR's until I bought a used original K5 and realized how crappy and outdated anything pre K5 is. The main critical improvement between the K7 and original K5 was the huge jump in higher ISO quality. 400 is useable without even editing it and you can use 1600 even if you are a picky person. I am pretty sure dynamic range also improved since I seemed to have less trouble fitting both highlights and shadows into the same exposure with the K5 than with earlier bodies.
You also never buy another camera without 2 wheels and an ISO button after experiencing one, it just makes things so much faster.

To directly answer your question if money is an issue get a used K5II or K5IIs (around $450 or so now), if not get one of the K3's that are suddenly a much better deal as they are cleared out to make room for K3II's.
Even a K5II will totally blow you away compared to the old K200D. You could take an original K5 if you find a great deal as it has the really critical improvements, but the stuff they add in the second model was really nice to have, especially the AF improvements.
Forum: Sold Items 05-27-2015, 07:32 AM  
For Sale - Sold: Pentax SMC K135/2.5 now $150
Posted By PPPPPP42
Replies: 4
Views: 1,020
I'll take it, PM paypal info.
Forum: General Photography 03-22-2015, 06:51 AM  
Are photo competitions deliberately elitist?
Posted By PPPPPP42
Replies: 22
Views: 1,803
I think most of my thoughts have been covered.

The only thing I would ad is there is photography as an art form, where you are putting the image in your minds eye on paper and can use multiple images and heavy processing, and then there is photography as a more "pure" something where the only editing you do is to make up for technical limitations such as burning and dodging to make up for lack of dynamic range or cropping to make up for a lack of the appropriate focal length lens to pre frame correctly.

Both are valid forms of art you could have competitions for, but if I wanted the former I would learn to paint. Photography is about having the vision to see the shot and the technical skill to capture it correctly.

As far as contests I find location is more important than equipment since judges as well as the general public tend to be attracted to the postcard shots or images of rare things more than a well captured something that everyone sees in their daily life.
Forum: Film Processing, Scanning, and Darkroom 03-21-2015, 01:36 PM  
Developer Receommendations
Posted By PPPPPP42
Replies: 21
Views: 3,465
Is there anything out there that has the shelf life of Kodak HC110 or do I have to just go and find some?

You would think they would notice they are killing sales with the current bottle size since nobody who even has any will ship.
The only place I could find any was someone on Amazon and it would have been as expensive as the Ilford stuff.
Forum: Film Processing, Scanning, and Darkroom 03-20-2015, 05:47 PM  
Developer Receommendations
Posted By PPPPPP42
Replies: 21
Views: 3,465
This thread got me thinking, I was about to give up film photography altogether because its just too damn expensive with all the expiration for as infrequently as I do it but this mixing right from super long shelf life HC might change that.

Personally leaning towards Ilfotec HC for the reasons above (I'd hate to change if it went away) and the fact that I use Ilford for everything else and hate mixing different systems (personal preference, I know it works fine).

What is a normal price for Kodak HC-110? Most places either have it way cheaper than the Ilford but its out of stock (or B&H not shipping?), or its so close to the price of the Ilford as to not be worth counting.
If it really is about $20 cheaper a bottle than the Ilford I might look into it but otherwise I'll stick with Ilford.
Forum: Pentax Film SLR Discussion 03-18-2015, 07:14 PM  
Good short macro zoom for Pentax MX?
Posted By PPPPPP42
Replies: 21
Views: 2,033
I would second that lens, it practically never leaves my film cameras.
If you stick A 2x teleconverter with the glass removed behind it, it becomes a WAY higher magnification macro with a minimum focus distance of zero when combined with the lens macro function. The zoom then becomes a focus (regular focus doesn't do much with extension tubes on) which is handy since you don't have to move your whole body to focus and can use a tripod easier.
You can an extension to knock the glass out of dirt cheap under lens accessories on KEH. I found a rare oddball sigma one cheap with A contacts that has bayonet mounted guts so the glass pops out easy to go from 2x zoom to super macro adapter.
There are several pictures on here taken with that setup (some are crops of the ones next to them and the spider was even taken using a film camera) and a picture of that sigma thing itself with the core removed and sitting next to it. PPPPPP42's Album: Pictures - PentaxForums.com
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 12-12-2014, 05:38 PM  
How many lenses do you have?
Posted By PPPPPP42
Replies: 1,503
Views: 105,520
If I had the cash I would only have a very few top end zooms to cover everything.
I have mostly lenses that are lower cost but decent to good quality, but they can only do so much so I need them all.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 09-16-2014, 09:50 PM  
Going Retro Camera?
Posted By PPPPPP42
Replies: 17
Views: 1,684
I still use my film stuff with associated lenses fairly extensively, but the K20D was seriously holding me back sensor tech wise and I never realized how badly until I got the K5, I would never go back. The ISO button is really handy too as I mostly shoot M.

If there is a point where digital tech interferes with your creative vision, it is in its lack of ability so more is better at least for now.
With a film camera you could use a K1000 and get the same image as an LX so that sort of thinking might apply to them. I would still like to see a DSLR that has advanced enough tech to have mode option to compress highlights like film (sorta modified HDR).

However with the K3 we are at a point where I would consider any more MP count a negative mostly for file size and camera processor reasons. I would like to see R&D put into improving other things and the MP count kept where it is to help keep costs down.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 09-15-2014, 06:22 PM  
HD PENTAX-DA 16-85mm F3.5-5.6ED DC WR
Posted By PPPPPP42
Replies: 917
Views: 128,022
I'm just going to summarize all my feelings on this as "No" for all the reasons already mentioned.

I truly hope this is a kit lens replacement for the 18-55WR and not something to compliment it in the line since nobody with the kit lens would waste hundreds on a near identical replacement when there are so many better choices. I suppose I could see it as an alternate kit lens but the 18-135WR already fills that role pretty well and makes a better all in one starter lens.
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