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Forum: Pentax Film SLR Discussion 02-24-2019, 10:39 AM  
Little help picking K-mount SLR?
Posted By Astro-Baby
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To get at the CE5s internals the tough bit is to get the shutter speed dial off without busting anything. You need to get the ring that contains the shutter speeds (the disc with the printed numbers on) away from the camera - they were glued on so you need a really fine edge to get under it. The speed ring is wafer thin so the chances of doing it without wrecking it are super slim. I tried something similar years ago with an Olympus flash and it was a non-runner - with the flash it didn't matter it was just a logo but losing the speed markings on the cameras shutter selector would be a serious headache.

On some other stuff I have worked on you could whap it with a heat gun and hope the glue gives up the ghost and lets go but with the Chinon being all plastic it would be a high risk way of doing things. At some point I will get an old CE5 to mess with and have a go and see how possible it is. Other than that its just a case of a conventional top plate removal - at least in theory - not having gotten the top plate off I don't know whats underneath - it could be a hell of electronics under there.

The lens is an old Sigma Zoom - its a weird thing with a 39mm to 80mm zoom and a real oddball. One of the first 'budget' zooms in the early 80s. Its quite a nice looking thing and is reported to work well. its festooned with rings - aperture, zoom, focus plus an extra ring which you push in a small slider to move to handle macro. Its bloody heavy as its all made out of metal and there are (I think) 16 elements inside. Sadly the one on the Chinon has picked up a flutter - I thought it was mould but its starting to look like an oil leak. I can't find any strip down guides on this one and after a recent baaaaad experience taking a Fujinon to bits I am loathe to risk it without some guide to work from. Luckily a friendly camera tech has promised to have a look at it and see if it can be sorted out at a reasonable price. I know its completely mad but I kind of like the lens and don't want to trash it - they are supposed to come up on eBay but I have yet to see one - mine came with a Pentax camera I bought waaaaaaaay back and its just been sat around until I go back into film.

On the CE5 I think they suddenly went plastic because it was all the vogue back then - get the weight down, make it all look hi-tech etc. Minolta started it up with the wretched Dynax 7000 and then they all followed suite. Even Nikon eventually with the F301 but at least the 301 was very rugged - the Chinon seems quite fragile and frangible.
Forum: Pentax Film SLR Discussion 02-24-2019, 04:21 AM  
Little help picking K-mount SLR?
Posted By Astro-Baby
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Well heres the couple I bagged off - The Nikon is immaculate and it was easily one of my favourite cameras back in the day. The internal auto winder is very fast, the metering was always right on the money and it was tough as old boots despite its plastic appearance. The seller let it go at 50 and it was complete with a boxed and pristine Nikon 35-105 zoom. Back in the day mine usually had a 28-80 zoom on it as my 'keep at my side' camera.

The Chinon was filthy when it arrived but a clean up and plugging on an old lens I have had for some time and it really looks the bomb ! I just put new seals in her as the old ones were on their way out. The CE5 I was a bit disappointed in originally as its VERY plastic but its really grown on me - it handles really well and its stop down lever/button is much better placed than almost anything I have ever used. Its match LEDs for metering are pretty solid and the metering seems accurate.

The downer with Chinons is they were meant to ever be taken apart- so if you have muck on the top of the focus screen/prism etc its a nightmare to get at and you have to risk busting the camera. On the upside they don't seem to have used half so much degradable foam as the folk at Fujica so gunk on the internal less of a possibility.
Forum: Pentax Film SLR Discussion 02-19-2019, 01:05 PM  
Little help picking K-mount SLR?
Posted By Astro-Baby
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ahhhh patience is a virtue with ebay. I watch lots but seldom buy. Only last week after a 6 month wait and see I managed to bag off a Nikon F301 complete with a very good Nikon zoom both in mint condition for 50 plus a very clean Chinon CE5 complete with motor drive for 20.
Forum: Pentax Film SLR Discussion 02-01-2019, 11:31 AM  
Little help picking K-mount SLR?
Posted By Astro-Baby
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Mikheil...the price must be something local. I bagged mine off a charity shop and she was very cheap. I have seen a few go theough ebay recentky that looked nice a CM4 went off ebay uk recently at 13 and that was with the motor drive and lens...think it had an extra lens as well. Web pricing does seem country specific and I do see people offering dreadful kit at stupid prices....and getting it.
Forum: Pentax Film SLR Discussion 01-30-2019, 02:17 PM  
Little help picking K-mount SLR?
Posted By Astro-Baby
Replies: 66
Views: 4,438
Bit late into this thread but Chinon did K mount cameras starting with the CM-4 (watch out as the CM-4s - and any Chinon post the '3' with an S filling its number is screw thread).

Back when they were making them I never even looked at them as in the UK they were sold exclusively by a box shifting shop that had horrible service and almost anything they sold was guaranteed to break down 10 minutes after you left the shop. I just acquired an old CM-3 and find it remarkably solid - its certainly all metal as far as I can tell and built like a tank. Mines an M42 thread but the 3 was the last model they did with that thread before switching to the K mount. Mine has very basic metering but I believe the later models started to get with it and get full display data in the VF.

Downsides - its VERY heavy at 800+grams with a 50mm lens but without the motor drive. Its far from a perfect bit of kit but it does have a charm about it - it feels like a real camera - lots of clunk click, chunky controls, not much (if any) plastic about it. CE4s seem to turn up on eBay at pretty low prices as the retro brigade don't seem to have started bagging them up yet - still too busy paying over the odds for ropey K1000s and knocked out AE-1s I think :)
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