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Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 44 Minutes Ago  
Pentax K-3 II successor on September 2020
Posted By JPT
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Well I don't know the price of the camera. It might be $2,000 or as low as $1,500. But I think you are taking the idea of a successor too literally.

- Did Ricoh ever use the term K-3 II successor? I don't remember that. I remember being told in the CP+ 2019 presentation that it keeps the concept of the K-7/K-5/K-5 lineage, but at the same time hearing that it is planned to be the class-leading APS-C camera on the market. They also said they have never seriously tried to make a truly class-leading APS-C camera until now. Separately, I heard that it was misleading to think of it as a "K-3 III". The fact that all they have disclosed is the body design and the OVF specs does not mean they are the only improvements - most of it is still a secret.
- Was the K-3 II successful enough to warrant a direct successor? As far as I can see, the K-3 II was historical low-point for the series. I know it's still a very good camera, but I don't think it was well received. Did Ricoh look at sales figures and say "Yes we want more of that!"? Certainly over here the KP seems to have sold a lot better, so they probably feel validated in launching that model.
- I sympathise with anyone who finds they can't afford what they want. I'll need to wait for it to come down in price too. However, you have to accept that top-class APS-C cameras are expensive these days. Almost all brands have a crop camera that costs 1,500 or more in their line-up (Canon 7D II, Nikon D500, Fujifilm X-pro 3, X-T4, Olympus EM-1 Mark III, EM1X, Panasonic GH5, G9). Why should Ricoh not address this market?

Having said all that, I do trust Ricoh to offer value for money, whatever price point they target. I think it will be better than anything else you can get for the money.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 8 Hours Ago  
Pentax K-3 II successor on September 2020
Posted By JPT
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Everything I've heard about the K-new leads me to believe that it is designed beat the Nikon D500, so it will be good value but not cheap. My expectation is that the new APS-C will come out positioned clearly above the KP in terms of price and capability. So the APS-C line-up will look like this (existing models are official Ricoh store prices, but the street price is 20-30% lower).

Low: K-70 - JPY 78,936
Mid: KP - JPY 140,250
High: "K-new" - JPY 220,000

Then common sense dictates that the K-new improvements will be in a full frame camera. Ricoh has also indicated that future models will have a higher pixel count. So you end up with a camera that looks much like a D850. That will be above the current model, leaving plenty of space below for the K-1 II to continue as the low-end model.

Low: K-1 II - JPY 258,500
High: "K-FFnew" - JPY 390,000

Canon and Nikon have had better AF because they had high-end halo models which the new tech was developed for. Then it cascades down to the more affordable models. Pentax hasn't had this for many years. That's why it's exciting to see what Ricoh can do with a 2,000 dollar budget for an APS-C camera. Given Canon and Nikon's current direction, it's likely that the K-new will never be equalled by an OVF based APS-C competitor.

This is the first time Ricoh has developed a whole new platform while having an APS-C and FF line-up. It would make sense to develop both concurrently. I don't think they will develop the APS-C and start designing the FF camera only afterwards. Nikon launched the D500 and D5 on the same day with a lot of shared technology. It's a bit fanciful to think Ricoh could do the same, but even so I don't think we'll have to wait another two years for the next full frame camera - more like 6-12 months.

Of course, everything above is my speculation.
Forum: Ricoh GR 5 Days Ago  
Ricoh GRIII - Free Battery Arrived (from survey)
Posted By JPT
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Got mine in Japan last week too. Delivered from America. I'm glad they made good on the promise in the end. An extra battery is always helpful for the GR III.
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 06-29-2020, 05:06 AM  
HD Pentax-D FA★ 85mm f/1.4 ED SDM AW first review
Posted By JPT
Replies: 105
Views: 6,386
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 06-25-2020, 06:23 AM  
HD Pentax-D FA★ 85mm f/1.4 SDM AW
Posted By JPT
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Somehow these pictures Yaotomi Camera puts up of packaged lenses ready to send out always bring a smile to my face.

Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 06-22-2020, 06:50 PM  
HD Pentax-D FA★ 85mm f/1.4 SDM AW
Posted By JPT
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Ricoh has put new gallery of portraits up now.


They featured in their magazine and a video before, but I think this the first time to see the images uploaded.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 06-17-2020, 07:35 PM  
HD Pentax-D FA★ 85mm f/1.4 SDM AW
Posted By JPT
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FYI - There are firmware updates for the K-1, K-1 II and K-3 for this lens today.


Look at the Event/Service News.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 06-11-2020, 02:58 AM  
GR III Street Edition Special Limited Kit
Posted By JPT
Replies: 78
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I'd been wondering what dark grey GR would look like and now I know. Looks great to me, As usual with the special editions, the pricing isn't bad if you actually want the things that come with it. However the two specific accessories I ended up buying are not included - the battery charger and the leather case.

There are more detailed pictures at this link.

???????? ??? RICOH GRIII Street Edition Special Limited Kit ????? !!! - ??????????by????????
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 06-06-2020, 10:54 PM  
PENTAX DFA70-300 SR patent public
Posted By JPT
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This is a very interesting find. That Ricoh is working on a 70-300 lens is not surprising. It's indicated on the roadmap. But the SR technology is unexpected. Some other companies are combining IBIS and OIS in their systems, and this shows that Ricoh is not going to let them get ahead.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 05-29-2020, 07:23 PM  
HD Pentax-D FA★ 85mm f/1.4 SDM AW
Posted By JPT
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On the subject of whether the unannounced wide angle DFA* will be 24, 28 or 35, I think the more reliable indications point to 24mm. Last year Ricoh reissued the 35/2 lens. I don't see why they would do that if they were going to make an all-new 35mm lens.

I also think the next wave of FF lenses will have to address low-mid end zooms to make the system more approachable to amateurs. Continuing to work with Tamron probably makes sense here - they could fit 3-4 gaps quite easily in that way.

f2.8 class: 15-30, 24-70, 70-200 (all present)
f4 class: [wide zoom], [standard zoom], 70-210
Variable aperture: [wide zoom], 28-105, [tele zoom]

I'm not sure if both wide zooms are necessary, but one or the other would be great, given how huge the 15-30 is.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 05-27-2020, 06:24 PM  
HD Pentax-D FA★ 85mm f/1.4 SDM AW
Posted By JPT
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The Special Site page is up on Ricoh Japan, with stories from professionals and a developer interview.

Here’s a link to the English.


More info on Yaotomi’s site in Japanese. There is a comparison with the Zeiss Otus optical formula.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 05-25-2020, 11:42 PM  
HD Pentax-D FA★ 85mm f/1.4 SDM AW
Posted By JPT
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That’s expensive. As a matter of interest I googled what the A* 85’s 1984 price of $770 would be adjusted for inflation. It comes out to about $2,000. I guess that’s what this kind of niche lens costs.

I wonder whether this is considerably more than the the DFA* 50 because there’s no deal with Tokina to spread costs.

Still, this the kind of lens you can build a career on if you have a business in portrait photography, so it will be worth it for some people.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 05-19-2020, 08:13 AM  
New APS-C is
Posted By JPT
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That's not what I mean. I don't think FF shooters will get an APS-C camera instead of a FF camera. I mean the K-1 is basically a higher end model than the new APS-C camera, yet it would have an inferior AF model until its successor came out. I think that would make it a hard sell. It's reasonable to expect a K-1 successor with the new AF before long, so I think a lot of people would hold off. This will be a problem anyway when the new APS-C camera comes out, but there's no need to do that earlier than necessary.

Ultimately, the problem is that you can't make a penny off a camera which is not available to order yet, but you can undermine the sales of current models. That's why they are holding off on specifics.

People say Ricoh are not very open about future products, but they just released a 40-minute video on just that. They have a public roadmap, and they sometimes show things at events. Not many companies do this. It's not a cultural thing either. It's just a common sense business thing.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 05-19-2020, 06:48 AM  
New APS-C is
Posted By JPT
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I was really happy to see the new camera will have a bigger viewfinder. The OVF is going to be the critical differentiator between this camera and its competitors, so it should be as good as it can be.

This makes me think back to the survey Ricoh did in Japan about 16 months ago. It asked what features were most desirable in a new K-mount camera. A tilt screen was on there and so was a bigger OVF. I guess the tilt screen was simply not a popular choice but the bigger OVF was. I personally didn't choose a tilt screen. I didn't think it was a compelling enough thing to select when they had things like mechanical video SR, touch panel control, frame rate and focus tracking. Based on the direction of that survey, I would expect further development of the viewfinder, multiple aspects of AF improvement (spread, density, indicators and more were on the list) and also some kind of features to assist the use of manual lenses. These three areas (OVF, AF, manual lenses) each had a special wish-list section to themselves.

The reason Ricoh is not saying too much about the specs is pretty obvious to me. They don't want their current models to look out of date. The K-1 II is good case. If you were thinking about that camera, would you still buy it if Ricoh was talking about a (purely hypothetical) 99-point AF system in a new camera? They have much more to lose than gain from letting out specs too early. They also risk making people too excited too soon, and then having the hype die down before it becomes available for purchase. Talking about the bigger APS-C OVF, on the other hand, is completely non-threatening to the K-1 II. I think that was carefully calculated.

The good thing is that they have reiterated that it is coming this year, and also announced a couple of pretty interesting lenses too. Another positive way to look at it is that we are now two months closer to the launch date than we would have been if they had done this presentation in Yokohama in March.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 05-05-2020, 09:40 PM  
Pentax K-3 II successor on September 2020
Posted By JPT
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Sorry, it's my mistake and thanks for correcting me. I was getting confused with their naming. It was the X-H series I was thinking about. Apparently it is not getting an update until next year but the line is still active.

The 26mp sensor was first used in the X-T3, and it was accompanied by a $100 dollar price cut over the previous model - an unusual step. That's one of the things, along with it's use in the cheaper X-T30, that makes me think that the part is not that expensive and intended to be the low-end companion to some as-yet-unreleased high-end model.

Anyway, my main point was that the 24mp sensor seems to be ruled out by what they said last year, the 26mp does not seem to be a natural choice for a high-end DSLR, so there's a high chance in my mind that we will get an all-new sensor.

It's strange that APS-C has been stuck at the same resolution for about 10 years, while other formats have kept increasing. But now that Canon has made a move, I think Sony will come out with something better.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 05-05-2020, 08:42 PM  
Pentax K-3 II successor on September 2020
Posted By JPT
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I realize you weren't actually making a prediction that these sensors would appear in the new Pentax, so this is not to contradict you but to add my opinion about this. I believed the sensor will be neither of these, and probably a new model.

IMX571 is unlikely to be used in my opinion. Although it is on paper a more advanced model than the 24mp model in the KP, it's improvements are in areas that Pentax does not tend to prioritise. For instance, I understand that over 1 million of those pixels are dedicated to on-sensor PDAF, which does not seem that important for a camera that still has a dedicated AF sensor. Another thing is that the sensor has been used on some distinctly mid-range models, like the XT-30. Sony will probably have more advanced model out sooner or later.

IMX271 won't be used if what was said at CP+ 2019 holds true. The lead of the camera design team said it has a new sensor, a new resolution and a new processing engine, and this is on video on the Ricoh Imaging Youtube channel. That second point would seem to rule out the IMX271.

Thinking about other options, Nikon seems to be using a high-end 20mp model, but that doesn't seem likely for the Pentax. On Canon's side they have a 32mp model that is actually good, but my guess is that Sony is finally going push resolution above 30mp, and that is what will be in the new Pentax. It might be why we are still waiting too. In fact Sony themselves have been quiet on APS-C camera introductions lately and Fuji have not updated their flagship XT range yet either.
Forum: General Photography 04-20-2020, 04:03 AM  
Pentax/Ricoh Wake Up?
Posted By JPT
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I agree with your interpretation of the article. I can only think that some people stopped reading before they have realized what the writer is going to say. He doesn't help matters by writing such a confusing piece. It is obviously trying to provoke a reaction with the title and misrepresentation of what Ricoh had said about people coming back to DSLRs. And for that matter he seems unaware that Pentax is not a company any more. That is a bit silly because Ricoh does have successful non-DSLR products - they just call them something other than Pentax.

If his argument is that some of the features currently absent in DSLR but available in mirrorless camera should be incorporated in the new APS-C camera, I can agree with that. I think there is a lot of pressure on that camera to deliver by not just being an incrementally better DSLR, but by making an argument for the value of DSLRs as a whole.

If you had compiled lists of pros and cons of DSLRs and mirrorless five years ago, you could have populated those lists with features and unique advantages quite evenly. But what has happened since then? The mirrorless cameras have caught up in many areas to be the equal of DSLRs while DSLRs have not closed the gap in the other areas. DSLRs still require focus calibration. They're still bigger and heavier (KP is a nice try). Their AF is now at the point where the mirrorless cameras have caught up in speed, but seem to be smarter at recognizing subjects. I'd like to think this is just because we are yet to see the DSLR that can improve these aspects, but you can hardly blame people for wondering if it will ever come.

I don't think the hybrid OVF/EVF is going to appear. Ricoh said in an interview last year that it was difficult because it reduces the quality of the OVF to add EVF capability. Imagine you could have the hybrid viewfinder, but you had to compromise with a 15% dimmer OVF. Would you want it? I think most people would prefer one or the other to a compromised mash-up of both. All the DSLR makers were working on this and had feasible looking patents, but none went as far as commercialization. There must be a reason for that. So I think the new APS-C may offer functions like eye AF, better video, better manual focus guides and more information overlaid in the viewfinder, but it will not be a fully switchable hybrid OVF/EVF.

Finally, I think his idea about the 645 is wrong. If Ricoh tried to compete with the Fuji GF cameras it would overlap too much with high resolution full frame DSLRs, which Ricoh makes already. The 645z is unique in being the one affordable camera primarily designed for tripod use. They need to double down on that and increase the image quality. I think "full frame" medium format is the way to go because their lens range mostly covers it. It's just a question of when they can get a sensor at a price that their costumers will pay.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 04-09-2020, 06:49 PM  
HD Pentax-D FA★ 85mm f/1.4 SDM AW
Posted By JPT
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Since somebody else has already posted the images, I guess there is little harm in uploading some closer images. These are just snaps of the page using a GR III. The framing might be a little odd, but I wanted to show some characteristics of the lens, such as the shape of the bokeh highlights.

Below: f2.8, ISO100

Below: f2.8, ISO400

Below: f1.4, ISO100

The images are all JPEG, taken with a K-1 II and a pre-production DFA* 85 by the photographer Ichiro Fujisato.

In the article itself the photographer does not mention the gear he is using at all. It is the photographer's views on the practice of taking portraits and the only indication that it is the new lens is if you look at the metadata. So I'm not going try to translate it, but you wouldn't learn anything new about the lens anyway.

Elsewhere in the magazine they show the same image of the new lens and the same information they put in the recent press release - nothing more.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 04-03-2020, 07:28 PM  
Ricoh Imaging Square Shinjuku renewal
Posted By JPT
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Ricoh now has a page up to show how they are changing the Shinjuku location.
??????????????? ????????????????????? / ?????? / ??????? Ricoh Imaging News / Beautiful Photo-life | RICOH IMAGING

From what I can see, the change is like this.
- Previously: You came straight in to a room with the repair counter and displays of mostly Theta products. The room behind that has product displays of mainly Pentax products on a display table in the center (which got in the way when they ran an event).
- Now: The front room has the Pentax products displayed and the back room is changed into a kind of library/lounge. But in fact I think this back room is probably being cleared of product displays to make it better for user events. Recently, they have been having some kind of event most weekends. If you went there to look at products when an event was on, they had mostly been pushed to the back to accommodate the audience and you couldn't get to them.

The two gallery rooms themselves seem to be the same, but I think they will be changing the kind of images they show in each. Presumably there will be more exhibitions on themes that might be appealing to GR users, since the Shinjuku location now has to perform the function that the Ginza location had to previously. Until now it has been about 80% landscape photography.

And on the subject of events, it seems they are planning more fan events to start when the Imaging Square reopens, but no dates yet because of the coronavirus situation.

So it seems that the Shinjuku Imaging Square Shinjuku is becoming more focused on traditional photography and less on Theta. It makes sense because the audience for those products seems quite different and the Theta exhibits weren't getting much attention, even if they were selling well.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 04-01-2020, 04:55 PM  
HD Pentax-D FA★ 85mm f/1.4 SDM AW
Posted By JPT
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Views: 76,589
I got that magazine in the post yesterday too. There are six portraits taken with the new lens.

I think that class of lens is always good, but I did like what I saw. They had some backlit portraits and it handled that situation very well. The bokeh is smooth as you’d expect.

More importantly, the lens is the real deal. It exists and it is good.
Forum: General Photography 03-28-2020, 10:41 PM  
Pentax 100 - Relentless Commitment to Image Quality
Posted By JPT
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Last November Ricoh held a series of 100 year events at their Tokyo showroom location focused on Pentax history and giving some insight into how they work. I wrote some reports, but there was one I wrote and didn’t upload due to a kind of quality control mentality. I wasn’t sure if people would be interested in it because it was largely focused on JPEG presets and image processing - quite geeky.

Since a lot of people are stuck at home, I figured I might as well post it now. The title was . . .

Relentless Commitment to Image Quality

The talk was given by Terauchi-san of Smart Vision’s product development department (I didn’t catch his given name). He works on image processing, white balance, noise reduction and pixel shift technology. Interestingly, he was wearing his Pentax workwear while speaking. It seems that they don’t make these anymore and the older staff who have been working there for years hold on to them and wear them daily, while the newer staff don’t wear a uniform. So if you went to their office, you’d be able to see who the Pentax old-timers are.

The first camera he worked on was the K20D and he has had a hand in every camera since. This talk was mainly focused on the custom image presets - how they were developed and what each one is suited to. He was accompanied by another person from sales called Ando-san. He was mainly there to pose the questions and make some comments about his personal use of the cameras.

I do think there is a cultural difference in how users in other countries (at least the ones active on the internet) and Japan think of RAW and JPEG. Of course it is a generalisation, by my sense is that Japanese users are more likely to use the in-camera features and the Pentax provided software to get the results they want. In any case, Ricoh/Pentax clearly sees it as an important part of their job to ensure that the JPEG output from their cameras is as good and configurable as possible. Also, it's worth noting that the Japanese press tends to focus on JPEG when evaluating cameras.

The importance of the K20D

There were some interesting comments about the K10D and the K20D. They realize that the K10D is seen as the more significant camera by the outside world. However, it’s clear that the K20D is seen internally as an immensely important model. It’s just that the changes were on the inside rather than the outside. In particular, this was the camera that introduced the sophisticated Custom Image function for JPEG shooters.

The K20D was the first Pentax DSLR I had, so I was not aware that the cameras before that lacked Custom Image. Looking back, the catalogue did make quite a big deal of it on p.13-14.

The development cycle
Terauchi-san shared some of the process that they use to develop the colour profiles for each of their cameras. They use a process of setting adjusting the parameters, shooting samples, evaluating images and going back to tweak the parameters. This cycle repeats until they get it right. What counts as ‘right’ is an image description that matches the Pentax identity. He didn't say how long this takes for a model. It would seem to be at least several months, but usually less than a year.

I say “usually” because he mentioned the K-1 was an exceptional case. Delays in development gave them a chance to do the testing process over the period of a whole year, taking in all seasons. He seemed to be especially proud of that.

Characteristics of the different profiles
The main part of the presentation was an explanation of the different presets and how to use them. It was nicely illustrated with his own examples. Incidentally, all of the engineers and even sales people I have met at Ricoh/Pentax are keen photographers themselves and often show their own photos.

I won’t go through all of this, but there were some interesting cases he showed when custom image setting can produce great results, such as using cooler temperature to make running water look more fresh, and using the “miyabi” custom image setting to bring out colours in a sunset.

I had always wondered about the difference between the natural and flat profile. He explained that natural is designed to still contain the Pentax signature image character, whereas flat does not. He likened it to lightly seasoned or completely unseasoned food.

Regarding the settings, a lot of the content is explained on this page.
Give further expression with PENTAX "Custom Image" | RICOH IMAGING

Some more advice about using settings (including JPEG parameters) is on this page, which seems to be new.
When you are lost, the answer might be there on your camera screen | PENTAX official

He didn’t talk at length about this, but it seems that the engineers and designers are constantly struggling with the issue of how much to expose the parameters for quick setting. It's a balance of allowing maximum customization and not slowing down or confusing users with too much complexity. This results in some of the functions being quite well hidden in the menus. They talked about settings I didn’t know existed because I had not gone that deep into the menus. I got the impression the interface for JPEG image settings is being worked on for future cameras, but it was just a passing comment.

Noise reduction
The main point discussed here was their policy of not cleaning up the image so much that detail is lost. The new part for me was how much they focus on the impact of noise reduction on bokeh. He showed samples of what aggressive noise reduction does to bokeh in an image of a plant and they go to great lengths to ensure that the noise reduction built into the cameras does not do that. He commented on how ridiculous it is to invest in lenses with great bokeh and then destroy it with crude noise reduction, showing us an example of an image retaining some noise but nice bokeh. Then he brought the image back out to remind us how pointless it is to fuss about residual pixel-level noise in such large files.

Pixel shift
Not much was said about this, but he explained how it works. This was nothing you can’t see from existing material. He explained that they refused to call it a “high resolution” mode, because they felt it was misleading, and that led them to the term “Real Resolution”. He showed a very convincing image comparison showing the effectiveness of motion correction working on running water.

In conclusion
So that was what I got from the event. One thought that occurred to me was what they said about the K-1. It’s clear that when a product is delayed, they don’t just sit there waiting for the delay to be solved, but their perfectionist mentality kicks in and they work on refining the details to make it as good as possible. It’s worth remembering as we wait for the new APS-C camera to be released. What we eventually get will probably be better as a result of waiting.

At the beginning of this post I mentioned some other events that I covered before. Here are the links to those threads if you’re interested.

About the FA Limiteds
The FA Limited Development Story (also a little DA Limited) -

About Pentax history in the 80s-90s
Pentax 100 - Little-known information about brand history -

Talk by the designer TKO
Pentax 100 - Talk by the designer TKO -

I hope everyone stuck at hope stays safe and finds some ways to not to fixate on the public health situation all the time.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 03-28-2020, 08:12 AM  
Ricoh Imaging Square Shinjuku renewal
Posted By JPT
Replies: 27
Views: 6,243
This is exactly the problem. From the street level, you could walk straight past it and never know it was there. Even when I knew it was supposed to be there, I wasn't quite sure and hesitated to go in. The location they have consolidated into is just a nicer space to be in, is more suitable for hosting events and must be cheaper.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 03-28-2020, 07:07 AM  
Ricoh Imaging Square Shinjuku renewal
Posted By JPT
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The GR Blog has out up an English version of the report about the final day at the Ginza showroom/gallery. It's bit confusing because it refers to "Ring Cube" and "A.W.P". These are different names for the gallery that was on the lower floor of the showroom.

Ricoh Imaging Square Ginza Closed. With Gratitude for Some 12 Years (Machuko@) | GR official | RICOH official community site

It was a funny space because it was doughnut shaped in the cylindrical part of this building.

Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 03-20-2020, 07:57 PM  
K-New: still kickin'...
Posted By JPT
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kwb - Thank you for the correction, I misunderstood "くださるそうです". I think the source is the Ricoh rep, since it follows on from the previous tweet which says "昨日は某R社の幹部の方々から".

I see that the K-mount roadmap has still not been updated after the 70-210/4 release, but it was probably not an oversight because the product catalogue has. It seems like the map was going to be updated at CP+, so there was something else to be revealed on it that they missed the chance to share. I guess they will say something when the public health situation improves and there is more chance people are in a mood to listen and make a purchase.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 03-19-2020, 07:02 PM  
K-New: still kickin'...
Posted By JPT
Replies: 179
Views: 17,499
I want to break this down into what I see as fact and assumption.

- Ricoh's Osaka sales rep is being transferred to Tokyo - A bit sad becasuse the Yaotomi staff have a close relationship with him
- The Ricoh rep said that they are slowly moving towards product commercialization (not mentioned what), although it may not be as quick as users or retail are hoping for
- The Ricoh rep said they are looking for other ways for releasing the content they were going to show at CP+, since there aren7T any other major events coming up

Assumption from Yaotomi
- The CP+ "content" they are talking about is new product information. (This may be true, but they also had the usual seminars planned, so it could be referring to that. On the other hand, the stand mock-up had a glass case in the Pentax section, so it is reasonable to assume they were going to show some reference products)

Assumption from Mistral 75
- The product they are taking about commercialising is the new APS-C camera. (This is not mentioned in the tweets is it? There are other future products on the lens roadmap and there is the possibility of other undisclosed plans. However, I do agree that the new APS-C is probably the no.1 possibility)

Assumption from the Photorumors/Pentaxrumors guy
- "Report: Ricoh to release more info on the new Pentax APS-C flagship DSLR camera soon" (This seems to be assumption upon assumption reported as fact)

The good part is that is does seem that they have something they want to share and are thinking about how to do it. It doesn't seem like a great time to announce a product unless it is really ready to ship. People are too preoccupied with other concerns to pay attention.
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