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Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 07-13-2016, 07:16 AM  
Sigma says No
Posted By normhead
Replies: 25
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Why is it that someone calling people like me a "brand fanatic" isn't perceived as an insult by you?
I could care less what camera brand this guy uses or switches to, but if he want to label me a "brand fanatic" for sticking with Pentax then it's time for him to check out. He clearly can't understand that other people need are different than their own and their choices are valid only for himself. Using terms like "brand fanatic" doesn't clarify anything.

The short version. "Finding a brand adequate for one's needs does not make you brand fanatic. Jumping around from one camera system to another, doesn't mean you're smart, or accomplished, or knowledgeable a better photographer than anyone else, or a pro, or an expert on who's biased and who isn't. In fact it's just as likely to mean you don't have the technical background to figure out how to use your gear."

I explained quite concisely what i was objecting to in the rant. And I didn't do what you are claiming I did.

But I do understand the rant was a little long for people with a short attention span. :D
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 07-13-2016, 06:58 AM  
Sigma says No
Posted By normhead
Replies: 25
Views: 3,043
And no one has a problem with folks who come in and ask for help with a problem. But what is with these folks who ask for you help by insulting you, and your gear? As I said, it's personality disorder.

The biggest problem many have with getting help, is actually asking for it.
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 07-13-2016, 06:06 AM  
Sigma says No
Posted By normhead
Replies: 25
Views: 3,043
We are talking about a 20% difference in reach between 50-500 and 150-600. It's not even clear that the 150-600 produces a better image than cropping the 50-500 a bit more.



Yes we do have a number of users like yourself who bought in because Pentax was a quality product at a good price, but not because of any one product that appealed to you. So of course you understand the OP. There will always be people buying into Pentax as a stepping stone brand.

But using terms like "But an unwavering fanatical loyalty to a brand," are inflammatory and derogatory.

I know it really upsets guys like you off that a lot of other people can meet their photographic needs without switching brands, without buying even a fraction of what Pentax has to offer, but I am totally opposed to this concept that anyone who is capable of meeting their needs solely with Pentax gear is a brand fanatic.

You should apologize. Just because your needs are more complex, doesn't mean those with less complex needs are fanatics. But your attitude does mean you comment is rude and demeaning.

You mis-state the situation. My position is, the Pentax camera you own still does everything you bought it to do.

If you bought the wrong camera, that's on you.
If you don't like Pentax glass and expected other manufacturers to fill in the gaps, that's on you.
If you come on the Pentax forum and make a post that essentially blames Pentax for your bad judgement, that's on you.

The role of the Pentax forum is not to apologize to those who think they can benefit from better. You can go on with your "as a pro I need more" B.S. but we all know pros who flourish with Pentax, so even that is questionable. It sounds like whining "I can't be all I could be because Pentax is holding me back." What a pile.

You don't have to be a Pentax "fanatic" to see these inconsistencies in this approach.
I've owned Sigma, Panasonic, Mamiya and Minolta, Kodak, Samsung, Ricoh and many other companies' gear. In fact I'm willing to bet if we look at who's owned more camera company's gear, and define who's a brand fanatic and who isn't, you're more of a fanatic than I am.

And i certainly don't go on an Internet forum and announce.. "The camera y'all use isn't good enough for me, and you're a fanatic if it is good enough for you." Do all you people have Tourette's or some kind of personality disorder?

You really ought to take more responsibility for your bad purchasing decisions and not bother people who are happy with theirs, with good cause. It's not Pentax's fault if you don't know how to properly evaluate a camera system to see if it meets your current and future needs before you buy, and while we might feel sorry for you, there's nothing we can do to help you. Except maybe encourage you by saying "Do your homework next time, with enough diligence, you can get it right.."
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 07-13-2016, 05:38 AM  
Sigma says No
Posted By normhead
Replies: 25
Views: 3,043
Possible troll alert... user with less than 20 posts, giving up on Pentax.

I swear these hissy fits are generated on a computer somewhere in Nikon headquarters.

"The Sigma/Tamron 150-600 is the only lens for me."

Sigma doesn't even pay Pentax licensing fees. They reverse engineer and their products don't function 100% like Pentax product.
The Sigma 150-600 isn't as good as the Pentax 150-450 with a TC. Not even close, so you're in love with a product that isn't even the best solution, you're complaining about not being able to buy a cheap knock off.

So you essentially want Pentax to provide you with a body so you can use cheap glass. I'm pretty sure that's not in their business plan.

I have several Sigma lenses, and they are just not as functional as Pentax lenses.

My take is, if the lens love of your life is a Sigma, buy what ever body goes with it. Clearly none of your Pentax lenses are the "lens love of your life" so you probably shouldn't have been with Pentax in the first place. As my photography teacher used to say, find the lens you love and buy the body that goes with it. I just find it hard to believe the lens love of your life is some third party un-licensed knock off that is clearly inferior to the Pentax option in every regard, except price.

I guess we are supposed to apologize that Pentax doesn't make cheap.

So your choice says a lot about you. You're not a fan of any Pentax lens apparently, and you probably shouldn't own one. It was an ill advised choice to begin with. Good luck with your D7200.



There will be lot's of buyers for your old K-moount glass. You can sell all that stuff you don't want to buy your beloved 150-600. There are lots of folks out there who will appreciate it.
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