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Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 02-12-2008, 10:20 AM  
Poll: primes vs zooms ?
Posted By gnaztee
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I don't think it's that rare, but I don't take it personally either. I'm not trying to defend the honor of zoom users, just giving my opinion of an idea that is accepted without challenge often in Pentax forums (any, not just this site...I can't speak for other camera brand forums, I only have Pentax). Again, I don't think anybody says it with deliberate disdain for zoom users. But for someone deciding between primes and zooms, it can be a bit misleading. I have gone back and forth with this myself. To try working with a prime, I got a m 50 f/2, but it just didn't suit me. Heck, on my last trip to Europe, I didn't even like the inconvenience of switching my 16-45 out for my Tam 28-75. :(

It's all personal preference, of course. For me, so many factors, and I'm still not even sure I want to stick with just zooms. I had to consider $ (DA 21/40/70 for $1150, or DA 16-45 - used - and Tam 28-75 for $650). My subjects (travel - never know what you're going to get, landscape - obstacles to getting to the locations you want to shoot from). And I had to consider my wife during travel, who really has a high tolerance for my running around trying to get the perfect shot, but only to a point. I'd love to have both, but...:D

Anyway, not trying to start a prime vs. zoom battle, just giving a different side.;)

Todd
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 02-12-2008, 08:14 AM  
Poll: primes vs zooms ?
Posted By gnaztee
Replies: 34
Views: 5,429
I should clarify I wasn't referring specifically to this thread when I said that, but I've seen variations on the theme on this and other forums. Actually, I think most of the time I see the comment, it is along the lines of, "using a zoom makes ME lazy." In other words, I've seen several prime shooters say that a zoom lets them be lazy in their composition, which is why they like primes. I got no problem with that.

However, I have also read posts that indirectly compare zoom-only users to soccer moms and P&S superzoom users. It's not overt, but the implication is that zoom-users are not "thinking" photographers. This comes out in discussions of perspective and zoom use, i.e., "zoom users just zoom in and don't consider perspective..." For what it's worth, I like that a zoom gives me MORE flexibility with perspective. :cool:

EDIT: Just found this on another thread in this forum (sorry for dragging someone else into this!)

"When I started photography as a hobby, I owned zooms only and covered all focal ranges. Slowly, I do discover that I often use one particular focal length with each zoom. The shots are more ordinary since there is less thinking involved in composition. Slowly over the years, I started to appreciate primes a lot more"

Just an example

Todd
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 02-11-2008, 12:57 PM  
Poll: primes vs zooms ?
Posted By gnaztee
Replies: 34
Views: 5,429
I've gone back and forth on this for awhile, but I find the same thing other zoom users have. I'd rather have the flexibility to get the shot, rather than have to conform the shot to whatever lens I happen to have on. I don't knock prime-only users at all, people should use what works best and what is most comfortable for them in the types of shooting situations they find themselves in. But a couple of thoughts make me quite comfortable with zooms.

First, a look on the Nikon "legends" pages shows that every featured landscape photog uses zooms (my preferred area of shooting, along with travel). So, good enough for them, good enough for me. Examples of great landscapes on photo.net will show a high number of zooms used for landscape photos as well.:cool:

Second, I don't buy the idea that using a zoom makes you "lazy" in composing photos. It starts with the vision you have for a photo, and the flexibility of the zoom makes it easier to get that vision framed. When I'm in a national park shooting, I crawl over rocks and climb and crouch to get what I want. The notion that zoom users just stand, zoom, shoot is a generalization that just isn't (or doesn't have to be) true.:D

Third, I can't see the difference in 16x20 prints between a good prime and a good zoom.

But hey, to each his own :)

Todd
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