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Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 08-19-2014, 08:22 PM  
$2000 - my upgrade decision, thoughts?
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 50
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since I suck at math, let a pro show you how it really works. and BTW, your ISO # on a crop isn't what it actually is either. You can thank me after you watch the video. Sorry you have to write all that stuff up, but essentially it's not correct.

and also I really like how you round 1.5X to 1... that's some serious good math to prove your point.















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Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 08-18-2014, 06:42 PM  
$2000 - my upgrade decision, thoughts?
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 50
Views: 3,399
an F4 lens on a FF is not shallow enough for you? you are sitting on a crop sensor, the f/2.8 dof is still bigger than a FF on f/4...

Can we just look at the final product instead of all these gear talk? you see a pro with a canon FF complain about dynamic range and color depth? heck if you don't like canon then get a nikon D600/D610, there, have your dynamic range and color depth.

and no, your DOF with a crop on a f/2.8 lens is not the same as as an f/4 on a FF... not by a long shot... please multiply everything by the crop factor, I don't understand the notion that people multiply the FL but not the aperture....

Honestly, just grab a FF and shoot with it with some good glass, you'll see why not many pros shoot with crop.

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canon was one of the early adopter of CMOS sensor, you won't see any CCD from them unless you look at some of their 1st digital camera... And I wouldn't get a pentax CCD sensor camera for work that pays, not because it doesn't produce good images, but it's definitely not as forgiving as the newer cameras.

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MF for pay work is like committing suicide, I know pentax user likes to MF, but get a good camera with micro focus adjust and good glass and forget about MF, your client is not going to sit there and wait for you to focus. yes MF saves tons of money, but there's a reason you're getting pay, invest the money and save everyone their time.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 08-18-2014, 12:13 AM  
$2000 - my upgrade decision, thoughts?
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 50
Views: 3,399
Yes, photos are produce by the photographer, not the camera. if your photography skill is equal, any DSLR will produce similar result, and I mean any DSLR, not just or K-3 or your friends D800.

Now do some experiment, grab some subject, and take your camera, take a shot, and take the D800 take a shot, same setting and everything (make sure to convert the settings because of the sensor size difference), make sure you both majorly screwed up your images (aka blown sky, lost of shadow details ect...), now go PP it, and see how much you recover on each images. Or do a DOF test, take your great Limited lens and shoot it against something similar to nikon, and see how thin the DOF on each image is....

Sorry, there's a lot of homer in this forum singing the Pentax song. Bottom line is, size does matter (if it doesn't why do some people go to medium format or even large format?). The images are still depending on the photographer skill, by this respect, 2000 dollar is better spent on photography class/lessons that can improve your skill, but most of us are gear junkies, the idea of spending money on photography class is crazy on these forum. If you absolutely have to spend money on gear, I would buy a FF and ignore these folks on here.

1) you will never wonder if FF is really the holy grail once you have it in your hand
2) it really is better than the crop sensor, no pros shoot with crop (except wild life folks, and some of them still use FF). I'm not saying the pros are always right, but I trust them more than most folks on these forums.
3) if you shoot people as you said, FF for the extra DOF control and canon/nikon for the superior flash system, you will benefit greatly from these things. I'm not saying natural light sucks, what I'm saying is pentax flash system is a dog compare to canon/nikon. And if you have the money for higher end FF camera, you'll get the canon/nikon crazy AF system too, I would say it's better than Pentax for sure.


I also suggest a sony A99 if you can live with the crappy flash system (although still better than pentax), it has a fully swinging screen that makes it easy to create usual angle shots, no other FF camera offer this, very useful feature if you are bored of shooting people at the regular angles or tired of getting on your knees for a low angle shot or lugging around a ladder for high angle shots.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 08-18-2014, 12:02 AM  
$2000 - my upgrade decision, thoughts?
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 50
Views: 3,399
6D and 24-105 L + 50mm 1.8. done, forget about going multiple system. That's it, it'll do everything you need it to do.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 07-27-2014, 09:49 AM  
Are we really THAT rare?
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 4,929
Views: 599,354
tons of people sell entry level nikon/canon on CL, they think the camera makes the picture... then they realized their entry level camera + kitlens makes worst picture than their cellphone...
Forum: Pentax Q 07-26-2014, 06:15 PM  
Pentax needs to make an autofocus Q-PK adapter.
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 11
Views: 1,326
they would need to build a shutter in the adapter, which they probably won't do, look at the way the adapter works, both end will be open to access. yes it would be easy to fix, but they will have to fix a ton of them due to user errors. The problem with the Q is that they got too cute and built the shutter in the lens.
Forum: Pentax Full Frame 07-26-2014, 06:12 PM  
A noob with a FF opinion.
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 242
Views: 15,292
Well, FF is kindda nice. The high ISO IQ is nice (and I know someone will yell at me for "who cares about ISO 1 kabillion), but look, being able to shoot in low light situation and produce usable images without strapping on a flash is awesome, and I can say that none of the crop sensor at this time matches the D800/D600, Sony 7S, canon 6D ect... in terms of high ISO performance.

At the same time, pentax just refuse to look at their competition. they have produce the same camera with little improvements over the year... have they thought about the flippy screen? that screen is very useful. Flash system, they are stuck in the stone age in terms of flashes, yes there are ways to walk around it, but for the money you guys are paying, it's sickening, if a chinese company can produce wireless radio trigger, pentax need to hire people to work on it, and not some lazy bum with an engineer degree that sits on his butts and collect the paycheck.

Pentax was the 1st camera I considered because of the forum, but the more I venture in, the more I grow to walk away from it... Yes you can produce wonderful images with pentax, but they sure as hell makes it harder for people to do it. It's ironic and most of their lens are made for FF, and they do not have a FF camera.
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 03-23-2014, 11:07 AM  
F series build quality
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 2
Views: 628
I don't know where people get that from, I have 2 F series prime, they're as heavy as a rock, no chance it's full of plastic, full of plastic is my kit lens.
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 08-11-2013, 09:52 PM  
Newbie - Wedding Lens setup? (on a budget)
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 18
Views: 2,505
might want to switch to canon/nikon for these type of gigs, primary because the client will be more "trusting" because of the brand name (it's pretty stupid but that's really how it works). I don't like wedding shooter because I really feel most of them are pretty much the same, there's absolutely nothing interesting to me. But from what I see they normally go like this.

1) multiple cameras, there's 2 people working a wedding, and most likely each of them will need 2X of the same camera, in case 1 of them break. You're probably charging 2-3k per wedding, but those bride/groom paid 20-30k for their wedding, you don't want to have broken equipment and not capturing their "amazing" moment. As for cameras, they're probably using some sort of FF or high end APSC but most likely they like it to be the same brand if not the same camera, that way they don't have to color match in PP later. I see mostly canon 5Dm2 or 6D or 7D from these guys. The reason is low light shooting is essential, it's rare to see a wedding that doesn't go into the night, in fact I never been to 1 that doesn't end at minimum 11PM/12AM, also the canon/nikon focus system is probably the best I've seen, pentax is good, but Nikon/canon have got this pat down.

2) Lightning, more "pro" wedding shooter will go with canon/nikon for their flash system, setting them up with pocket wizard for wireless firing, these guys will even set up the lightning before hand, group them into different groups and fire them up at the event, the "crappy" ones normally just go with flashes mounted on their cameras with some sort of diffuser.

3) Lens wise, they go for wide angles and possibly a 70-200 to be not intrusive during the quiet moments, from the canon lineup I would imagine the 16-35L, 24-105L and 70-200 L

Wedding photographer will probably bring the most cash, it's a good way to make money, this is why we end up with a flock of them these days.
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 08-11-2013, 09:39 PM  
My sigma 70-200 f/2.8 is dead 😥
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 13
Views: 2,564
most of the older tamron/sigma 70-200 2.8 is around 500 used. i would go for that, is there any 70-200 f4 on pentax?
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 08-04-2013, 07:18 AM  
What's the point of f/22?
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 23
Views: 2,781
macro, long shutter, maximum DOF, ect.. there's some use, brian peterson suggest it a lot in his videos "aka f22 club".
Forum: Pentax K-01 08-02-2013, 12:25 AM  
JPEG or RAW
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 9
Views: 1,579
JPEG, it's faster and the engine on the k-01 is pretty good. you can edit your photos even if it's jpeg.
Forum: Pentax K-01 08-02-2013, 12:24 AM  
Will the VF-3 View Finder work on the K-01?
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 34
Views: 6,317
a 100 dollar plastic box for a ~200 dollar camera? that doesn't sounds like a logical solution.

I'm gonna go ahead and get a small hood for it, and patch it up with paper to make a square box to look through. seriously 100 dollar for a plastic box is going a little too far.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 08-01-2013, 11:39 PM  
Keep K20D and add K-01, or sell and get closeout K-5 instead?
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 26
Views: 2,176
I like my k-01 no view finder, but there's LCD hood/finder ect... it's not the end of the world, focus on longer lens can be slowwwww, but the 50mm focus pretty fast. IQ is great, I like the jpeg engine on this camera, I don't know what they do, but ISO 10000 looks good lol, I mainly use it to shoot jpeg, if it's got a good engine I really don't mind the jpeg, minimal processing on my part, save some time.

The K20D, i'm not so hot about, but I imagine it'll be usable, there's really no unusable camera out there, you just have to work around it.
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 07-29-2013, 08:28 AM  
New to Pentax
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 20
Views: 1,492
http:///f/6181650-Nikon-D600-DSLR-Camera-Kit-with-24-85mm-f-3-5-4-5G-ED-AF-S...Bay-Daily-Deal

500 more for a FF

money save later on prime too, all the 50/85/135 is cheaper on nikon than it is on pentax.

but I get it that you really want the K-5 II, then you should get the K5 II.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 07-28-2013, 08:10 AM  
Considering Pentax Kx camera as upgrade
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 31
Views: 3,024
if the lens has contacts for focus confirmation, the camera will peep when it's in focus (matching the focus point).

the K-x has a pentamirror OVF, the K-r has a pentaprism, which is better.

Over all if you're into MF stuff, I would get something with an EVF, it has focus peaking and is much easier to see VS an OVF. There's no pentax with EVF, but you can put an LCD loupe on and use that as an EVF if you switch the camera to live view.
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 07-27-2013, 10:29 PM  
New to Pentax
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 20
Views: 1,492
here ya go

http:///permadeal/98978/ebay-nikon-d600-24.3mp-full-frame-dslr-camera-w-2485...ns-refurbished
http:///f/6117452-1765-Nikon-Refurbished-D600-kit-with-24-85mm-lens-free-shi...0-day-warranty
http:///f/6175208-Canon-EOS-6D-20-2-MP-Digital-SLR-Camera-8035B002-Black-Bod...-Free-shipping
http:///f/6172424-Canon-EOS-6D-20-2MP-Full-Frame-Camera-24-105mm-f-4L-IS-Len...ier-11-2199-AR
http:///f/6121736-Canon-6D-with-24-105L-2040-AC-At-Newegg

let me put it like this
Canon 6D + 24-105 L = 2000
Nikon D600 + 24-85 = 1800
Pentax K5ii + XXXX = 1100 + XXXX

I don't know, if it's up to me, I would get the canon/nikon combo, every time there's a sale on these FF camera it go down 50-100 bucks,

Don't want to wait, cough up another 100 for the body right now
Nikon D600 Digital SLR Camera Body - Factory Refurbished includes Full 1 Year Warranty

that's 1600 for the body + 85mm 1.8G = 1900
pentax K5ii + 77 lmt = 2000+ easily

refurb but lot of people have had good luck with it, it's a non issue.
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 07-27-2013, 08:57 PM  
New to Pentax
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 20
Views: 1,492
nope, both body is floating around 1500 right now.

I'm talking about the 6D and the D600, not the 5Dm3 and the D800. I've been watching the market like a hawk because i just moved to FF recently on my sony system and was pondering the idea of switching system since canon/nikon FF is potentially cheap (the A99 on sony is closer to 2200).

and as far as the K-5ii VS the D600, even though the D600 is a consumer FF body, it's still good, it's like a D7000 with a FF sensor, the IQ is very good. you'll miss IS on prime, and weather sealing, but the AF is better, and better DR as well as high iso
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 07-27-2013, 05:02 PM  
what was the cause for pentax lens price hike?
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 20
Views: 1,984
I saw a review of the FA50 at dpreview in 2008, and they said the street price was 200, I think it's safe to say we don't get that price anymore, but why did we have that price jump? inflation can't be it, no way it goes up 50% in just 4 years.
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 07-27-2013, 04:07 PM  
New to Pentax
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 20
Views: 1,492
you did said that you have a canon 5Dm2, or atleast access to one.

Honestly if costs is an issue, I would go away from pentax, it's border line one of the most expensive system out there, it comes with certain things like weather sealing and great menu/adjustment, as well as nice camera size, but as an over all package, you can spend a tiny bit more and go FF on canon or nikon. At the same time, we have not heard a peep out of pentax about a FF camera in the near future, so you choice to upgrade is limited, you might be forever stuck on an APSC size sensor (not that it's a bad thing, but the bottom line is you don't have a choice if you ever decide to go FF with pentax).

The canon 6D + 24-105L is around 2000
the Nikon D600 + 24-80 VR is around 1800.
They also have good prime, such as 35mm/50mm/85mm/135mm/200mm ect... all in production that you can get for relatively close to what pentax is offering.

If you really want IS on those prime, sony has the answer.
the A900 is about 1200 USD.
sony has good prime from it's minolta days, and it's also partner with zeiss, the 85 1.4 and 135 1.8 from zeiss has got to be up there with the highest rank prime in that FL.

however the menu/adjustment on the A900 is not as good as pentax.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 07-27-2013, 12:33 PM  
Considering Pentax Kx camera as upgrade
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 31
Views: 3,024
are you really stuck on the k-x? the K-30 is a lot better because camera tech have been pushed pretty hard in the last few years since the k-x released.

the K-01 is a good alternative if you're not out in bright sun light often, the k-x/k-r was supposed to be my 1st camera and I never got it, so I'm bias toward them, but even then at this point and time I don't see a reason for getting them for 200.
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 07-27-2013, 08:06 AM  
K-x focus question...photos attached...
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 53
Views: 3,763
the camera ain't that bad, especially with large target. it does have trouble in low light, small target, low contrast ect.. ect.. but generally I find it ok.

I don't let my AF point for the camera to decide, but the OP is new, so that might makes life easier.
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 07-26-2013, 09:18 PM  
K-x focus question...photos attached...
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 53
Views: 3,763
sounds like you're looking to take lots of portrait or at minimum people as your subject. Well, before we suspect any camera problem, let's start with a few setting.

1) turn your dial to auto mode
2) turn your ISO into "auto ISO mode" and if you can set the range, set it from 100-3200
3) change your focus to "auto"

Point to the subject half press the shutter, you see your subject in focus? press shutter full, that's it.

If you're looking to get more complicated, you'll need to read up on some stuff about how to control your camera, and a little bit on depth of field and portraiture, all of this can be accomplished in an hour or two with your camera, you don't even need a person to test this stuff out, use something as a prop to test, a fan, a chair, ect...

Here's a little cheat sheet, it might help you out

http://media.digitalcameraworld.com/files/2012/05/Depth_of_field_photography_cheat_sheet.jpg
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 07-26-2013, 09:04 PM  
New to Pentax
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 20
Views: 1,492
You didn't like the 5Dm2? if you did like it, try the 6D or the D600, for portrait work, I feel that FF is nicer, you get your critical sharpness with thiner DOF, and generally for non studio portrait it works to your advantage.

The A99 is a sick camera, but it's out of your budget, one of the best combo I know is a sony FF with the zeiss 135 1.8, I haven't seen another combo that's definitely better than that.
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 07-26-2013, 09:00 PM  
body maintenance
Posted By clockwork247
Replies: 3
Views: 695
I never get mine tune up. Most of the cameras i own are lower end, costing about 200-300 per body, they do the tune up with the shipping costs I might be looking at 100+, no reason for me to do so.

But over the years I've learned to

1) Clean the sensor
2) nothing else lol

actually I tried to clean the view finder with decent result, that's one of the hardest thing I've tried (the camera isn't meant to have it's view finder pop open, it's the lower end model).
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