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Forum: Post Your Photos! 2 Days Ago  
Pets Noam the English Sheepdog in autumn colours
Posted By newmikey
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Yep, spot-on! We've had OES's for the last 25 years or so and I really love the breed. Nice and silly animals, friendly without slobbering, keep the family together on walks/outings and love to cuddle. What more could a man want from his best friend?
Forum: Post Your Photos! 2 Days Ago  
Pets Noam the English Sheepdog in autumn colours
Posted By newmikey
Replies: 4
Views: 174
For today's morning walk I got what my family calls "the Beast" from the lens bag - the old Sigma 85mm F1.4 EX DG HSM . Indeed, with both parts of the lenshoods assembled for APS-C use, the bloody thing looks positively huge on the little (gripless of course) K-70. I got the lens when I was still using a K-5 with grip and it was nicely balanced on that combination - a bit less so on the K-70 regretfully. It looks slightly out of place.

Now this lens got a pretty darned good score on the PF lens review but it has its limitations. It seems very easy to get it to produce horrific purple fringing wide open and even down to f2.8. It is also notoriously hard to focus wide open due to the tiny sliver of DOF and the fact even swaying back and forth a bit after focus locks can throw your image out of focus very easily.

Having said all that, when this lens delivers, it absolutely kicks *** with this almost model photography like look. It's just short of the exaggerated effect of a tilt lens, enough though to catch the eye for a millisecond before you realize you are looking at a live scene.

I can't say much about the colours of the lens in particular as I use my own presets in Darktable to convert the raw file. Sharpness is already pretty good but I tend to lift out the main subject on a separate layer in Gimp, apply a gradient mask (or forgrond extraction with feathered edges) and sharpen the in-focus area even a bit more.

Anyone who has seen my posts before already knows my trusted companion Noam who has gotten used to me dicking around with a camera for a while. After a while he just plops down and keeps his eyes trained on me to make sure I don't do crazy things. Pretty cool for an 18 month-old dog!

As usual, full exif when you click through to Flickr as the latter strips out exif from the resized BBCode versions.

[EDIT]As a PS, this kind of low to the ground shooting is why I dearly love articulated LCD screens. The ground was pretty wet and muddy but with a flip&twist LCD you can stay on your feet to get the low-angle shot.

DMG07064-Heilooerbos-ISO400-dt-gimp-2018-web by Mike Bing, on Flickr
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 11-12-2018, 08:57 AM  
in what format to store RAW files on external storage drives ?
Posted By newmikey
Replies: 11
Views: 477
The OP already said he has thousands of PEF files so your first sentence is a bit of a surprise to me. You are answering a different question, one that the OP never asked to begin with. Not going to redo the whole PEF/DNG discussion but here you have someone already has PEFs and is asking whether it makes any sense to literally convert all of them to DNG and get rid of the original PEFs. The answer is of course that that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Forum: Troubleshooting and Beginner Help 11-12-2018, 05:39 AM  
in what format to store RAW files on external storage drives ?
Posted By newmikey
Replies: 11
Views: 477
You already have PEF's so it makes more sense to store them as they are, knowing you will always be able to convert them to another format such as DNG if and when that would ever be required. There can only be one answer: you store raws in the exact format they came out of your camera, whether that is DNG or PEF.

This is a wholly different question than the one about what the better raw format to use would be: proprietary or DNG.
Forum: Post Your Photos! 11-12-2018, 04:58 AM  
Cityscape The historic center of De Rijp
Posted By newmikey
Replies: 4
Views: 194
(Source: Wikipedia)Before the lakes on either side of De Rijp were pumped dry, De Rijp was a port town with merchant ships that travelled the high seas on trade routes. The town had a medium-sized herring fleet, and searched for whales with larger ships. Rijper vessels travelled regularly to Spitsbergen. After the success of the polders near Alkmaar and Egmond, plans were formed to make polders of the other lakes in North Holland, including the ones on both sides of De Rijp. In 1605 De Rijp split off from Graft and became a relief center for the effort to pump the Beemster dry. The project was run by the architect-engineer Jan Leeghwater, who had been born in De Rijp and even designed the Town hall.(end wiki quote)

We spent some time over the weekend in this historic village. Regretfully the weather wasn't very cooperative so I stuck to my 16-85 which is WR. Camera and lens got really wet but both came through with flying colors. I managed to get a few nice shots but spent quite some time getting rid of parked cars, street-signs, commercial billboards and other "modern" nuissances which IMHO spoil the 17th-century vibe of the place. Here are some of the resulting images.

Most of the images have exif intact if you click through to Flickr (which removes exif info from smaller-sized shares regretfully) and some also have the GPS data to pinpoint the shot location.

De Rijp by Mike Bing, on Flickr

De Rijp by Mike Bing, on Flickr

De Rijp by Mike Bing, on Flickr

De Rijp by Mike Bing, on Flickr

De Rijp by Mike Bing, on Flickr
Forum: Post Your Photos! 11-06-2018, 04:21 AM  
Abstract Take me to your leader
Posted By newmikey
Replies: 5
Views: 260
Going over my backup drive, I decided to give this image a new twist. What it was, was a simple look straight up the staircase of the monument/viewpoint on the Afsluitdijk in the Netherlands. The monument was erected at the point where the Dutch closed off the Zuidersea to protect against deadly flooding in the 1930ies.

I converted the singe DNG with Darktable, mirrorred it with some straightening to ensure the pieces would fit properly and line up. Lastly I decided to use the "graphic novel" filter in GMIC to overlay some scifi-ish sauce.

Take me to your leader! by Mike Bing, on Flickr
Forum: Post Your Photos! 11-05-2018, 02:22 AM  
Abstract A circle of light
Posted By newmikey
Replies: 5
Views: 183
That is mostly correct and on top of that, there's an additional mechanism at work here: the multi-autoWB of the GR. It sees the dominant yellow of the lamps and tries to compensate them to a more neutral white by shifting WB into the blue. The result is that the background, which already has a blue-grey tint from the clouds (this IS London, after all) is driven to a more intense blue. The ceiling beams which are above the lights but do not get any direct light from the sky either, remain a reasonable neutral dark-grey/black. I emphasized the blue even a bit more in PP by kicking the saturation up a fair bit.
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 11-04-2018, 12:24 PM  
40mm 2.8 XS discontinued in 2016 ?
Posted By newmikey
Replies: 10
Views: 690
Lenscap-hack that I use: a STEP UP ADAPTER 27MM-49MM (fleebay) and a regular 49mm pinchcap. Another benefit is that the same 49mm Haida ND1000 I bought for the Ricoh GR now fits the K-70 with the 40mm as well.
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 11-03-2018, 03:14 PM  
40mm 2.8 XS discontinued in 2016 ?
Posted By newmikey
Replies: 10
Views: 690
I just picked a new one (NOS) up for a steal last month. Really makes the K-70 stealthier and so far I like the output (minus the purple fringing that is).
Forum: Post Your Photos! 11-03-2018, 04:41 AM  
Abstract A circle of light
Posted By newmikey
Replies: 5
Views: 183
Look up to the lights under a rainy sky by Mike Bing, on Flickr

I thought it'd be fun to revisit some older shots and see if I have learned anything over the past 3 years or if I can look at them with a fresh view to what could be done. Also, sometimes software progression has been to the point where I feel I can do so much more today than I could 3, 5 or 10 years ago merely because my toolkit has improved.

Here's a shot I took in London some 3 years ago. The weather was miserable and I was basically stuck in the hotel waiting for a business meeting across the street. In the hotel lobby I looked straight up and saw the rain on the glass roof panels and the circle of incandescent lamps which contrasted the doom and gloom outside with very yellowish light.

I leaned back, standing in the middle of the lobby, knowing people were watching ("look mummy, that strange man is doing weird things") trying to lift my Ricoh GR above my head and line up the ceiling on the LCD. It would have been so much easier with an articulated LCD!

The shot suffers from lens distortion, there is quite a bit of keystoning caused by me not holding the camera perfectly parallel to the floor and the exposure is correct for the lamps but the towering structures around that central lobby are badly underexposed.

When I got back from London I made many attempts at dealing with the image but I never ended up being satisfied. Either I didn't get the lines straightened out just the way I wanted or when I did, the resulting crop left a very unsatisfying decentering on the circle of light. Also, correcting exposure burnt out the lamps and trying to protect them with a mask left telltale signs like halos or dark edges.

So here's my retry in 2018 with DarkTable applying quite some heavy shadows/highlights protection. Also I activated the LensFun module to apply correction for the GR's 18.3mm f2.8 lens. Finally the geometric correction module set to automatic 2-way correction straightened the ceiling beams but the resulting crop was again too constrictive. I left the image uncropped and imported as a 16-bit TIFF into Gimp.

In Gimp, I initially set a 3:2 crop focused on keeping the circle of lights central. This of course left unsightly black triangles in the top-left and top-right corners which were then filled with a combination of content-aware filling and some careful use of the clonestamp. Finally I used GMIC to overlay a high-pass mask and another GMIC layer with the "freaky details" filter. I then upped the saturation of the base layer and saved the resulting image.

To me, the image has now gotten a bit of a science-fiction look to it, starkly graphic but the major lines of the composition stopped distracting the eye.

Below, you'll find the OOC image and the step after raw conversion and before import into Gimp
Forum: Pentax Full Frame 11-02-2018, 04:52 PM  
Pentax K10D
Posted By newmikey
Replies: 17
Views: 763
I have shot the K20D (which was one model up from the K10D) as well as the K-5 and K-5 IIs. My daughter currently shoots a K-3 and I am now on a K-70 body. From what I've seen from friends as well as online, the K-1 will blow most of the above out of the water but most certainly the K10D. Anything that came from the K-3 and onward will come pretty close to the K-1 but the difference will still show when you look close enough.

Having said that, the K-1 is a FF body so it is not a clear progression from the APS-C line. You will have to accept the considerable cost of a system built around the K-1 as well as the bulk and weight. Choosing between the K-1 and its Mark II incarnation is probably a decision built on usability rather than pure IQ.

So K-1? Awesome goodness indeed but answer the question of FF vs. APS-C first as much will depend on that.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 11-02-2018, 04:33 PM  
Hedging your bets, or how do I not stress about buying Pentax lenses?
Posted By newmikey
Replies: 35
Views: 1,521
Over time I have divested of lenses which I don't often (or never) use. What's left in my bag has paid for itself 10 time over (not in fees, I'm not a pro, but in pleasure and fun). I'm not agonizing over that anymore and if Pentax should one day cease to exist, I can probably keep shooting for another 3-5 years before technology advances to the point where I'm forced to buy into a new system.

What also helps is that I have no use for multiple overlapping focal-lengths and I have stopped schlepping around a bag full of lenses of which I will only use 2 on any given day. I either choose one prime for the job with one backup zoom for the unexpected or I cover a 16-190mm range with two zooms and a 1.4 converter (I'm not a great believer in superzooms beyond the 3-4x zoomrange).

Besides my "regular" lineup I have a few "special-purpose" lenses which get rarely picked for the job at hand but which I cannot do without such as the 8-16mm and 85mm Sigmas or the Samyang fisheye. That's about it - I do not want, nor need 30 lenses sitting around and anything I haven't used for a year must go.

I really don't have time for gear anxiety so I don't waste time worrying.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 11-02-2018, 12:07 PM  
RAW file format
Posted By newmikey
Replies: 57
Views: 1,757
If the experience of the past 10 years have taught me anything, it would be that cloud-storage by a 3rd-party can be unplugged at a moment's notice and that companies sometimes take a dramatic turn away from the services or products they have been offering for many years.

The Fotki debacle is already a couple of years ago but anyone foolish enough to have taken up the offer of cloud-based storage from them woke up one day to find themselves locked out of their own files unless they paid what I can only describe as a ransom. Very fresh is this week's news about Flickr of course.

But do not forget the hardware side of things with established names divesting of whole divisions in a matter of months - in computing, IBM springs to mind of course and in industrial areas GE, one of the longest existing industrial concerns, has been shedding complete businesses left, right and center (I used to work for GE so I keep up with the news through friends who are still there as well as the online feeds. Adobe could be doing industrial 3D printing 3 years from now for all we know.

No, you simply do not trust cloud-based storage for anything else but convenience services. Even cloud service still relies om Adobe or another party having dedicated servers with whatever the current storage technology happens to be. It's not as if the word "cloud" has suddenly started to mean "no hardware involved".

It does sound very neat and convenient that you can access all of your stuff via the Adobe cloud but I can do the exact same thing with my own NAS at home without being locked-in to one provider or commercial party. (actually that's exactly what I do with triple redundancy drives one of which is stored outside the home)

So it's all very neat that the same company which brought us "the best archival format" also brings us "the best cloud-based archive" but that is a lot of eggs for anyone to put in one single basket!

Steve made an excellent point above I have to admit to not having thought about where he stated:


And that puts the question to all of us whether raws, PEF/NEF/CR* or DNG actually are what we want long-term archival to look like? Would I want some future person to take a raw I shot and process it to his/her own liking without knowing how I envisaged my work? Possibly for straight documentary shots the answer might be "sure, why not?" but for the more creative work I suppose a 16-bit TIFF would work way better as an archive of what I made/created.

Some excellent thought processes in this thread indeed!
Forum: Post Your Photos! 11-02-2018, 09:42 AM  
Abstract Look into the eyes, not around the eyes but in the eyes...
Posted By newmikey
Replies: 4
Views: 195
It was in a hotel in Budapest, Hungary when I was there back in 2014 on a businesstrip. Here's the OOC jpeg for anyone who is wondering what the staircase really looked like...
Forum: Digital Processing, Software, and Printing 11-02-2018, 01:46 AM  
Kolor has closed - AutoPano Panorama Stitching Software no longer available.
Posted By newmikey
Replies: 5
Views: 456
I have used Hugin for so long and it is a solid bit of kit. Multi-platform too. Hope that helps!
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 11-01-2018, 05:17 PM  
RAW file format
Posted By newmikey
Replies: 57
Views: 1,757
But support for PEF/NEF/CR* ec is not linked to the operating system to begin with. Support for existing proprietary raw formats is always available in its most basic form and free for anyone to (re)implement through existing C libraries. That language is not really going anywhere soon and even if it were, the structure is so common it can be ported to any newer language which might come around the corner.

The argument of obsolescence has been used many times but the truth is that most raw converters and libraries today read raw formats harking back to the Sony Mavica models (yes, the ones with the floppy disk and 0.9Mp). Truth be told, my Darktable 2.4.4 still reads files from my Casio QV4000 I purchased in 2013 as well as every single Canon Powershot and Pentax camera I owned over the last 15 years - none excluded. My software toolkit evolved from plain DCRAW into UFraw, nUfraw, Rawtherapee, Bibble, Digikam and now Darktable and not one single historic format ever got mislaid in the process.

With Microsoft no longer myopic and now contributing to- and absorbing from- the open source community one could use the exact same argument which is used to promote the DNG format: the ability to read existing (even historic) proprietary raw formats is openly published, for anyone to implement at any given moment. DNG certainly is no less future-proof than proprietary raw formats but no more either. In that, it really is "yet another raw format".

Chances are both Windows, IOS as well as Linux will be long gone but raw formats both proprietary formats as well as DNG will remain readable by anything new that comes along.

If we are to be afraid of obsolescence, it should be the storage media we must fear. Just like it is almost impossible to obtain a 5.25 floppy drive today, CD/DVD drives are quickly disappearing from computers, USB may go the way of the dodo as may cloud storage. We may be using atom crystalline structures or some form of optical holographics in future. Even if our raw formats will all be readable 20 years into the future, the storage media we maintain the files on may become obsolete way before that. DNG or PEF will not matter one bit if you lack the means to actually read the files off old-fashioned USB3 SSD drives.

Possibly the only thing to really survive longer will be archival-quality prints (unless moisture, acid rain or beasties eat away at them). In the end, nothing will remain but for the foreseeable future the format should be the least of our worries.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 11-01-2018, 03:16 PM  
RAW file format
Posted By newmikey
Replies: 57
Views: 1,757
I thought I kept it pretty clean but if you prefer, I'll take a break here. Barry and I will probably never agree on the DNG thing anyway although I have read through his blogs and website and we do have a lot in common in non-photography related stuff, I can assure you! So if you read emotion I'll readily apologize - I just love a good wordfight that's all and Barry is a good fighter.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 11-01-2018, 03:09 PM  
RAW file format
Posted By newmikey
Replies: 57
Views: 1,757
Barry, you're a hard-headed guy and I respect that. You make some valid points and I respect those too. But what you fail to see is the reverse of what you state above: It is hard to find faults with PEF that are not present (along with many more) in Pentax's implementation of DNG and there are more than enough faults with a DNG which are the result of conversion with Adobe DNG Converter (or any 3rd-party DNG converters for that matter).

That being the case, the whole reasoning for Pentax owners of most models to use DNG rather than PEF does not exist. You are an engineer, a mathematician - you cannot NOT see the logic of that. The statement "DNG has problem X, so I'll continue using my PEFs with the same problem X" is as invalid as "PEF has problem X, so I'll start using DNGs with the same problem X".

You have made this DNG thing into a religion of sorts and both you and I agree on one thing - we do not care for such a belief-based system!
Forum: Post Your Photos! 11-01-2018, 02:30 PM  
Abstract Look into the eyes, not around the eyes but in the eyes...
Posted By newmikey
Replies: 4
Views: 195
Old GR shot redone with a bit of crazy thrown in for free:


Look into the eyes, not around the eyes but in the eyes...
by Mike Bing, on Flickr
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 11-01-2018, 01:27 PM  
RAW file format
Posted By newmikey
Replies: 57
Views: 1,757
And I think that's exactly where the problem really is. It may be irrelevant and useless to you but there are more ways than your way.

As you wrote umpteen years ago on your blog, written in 2009 I believe and last updated in 2013:
"DNG, was launched by Adobe on 27 September 2004. It will transform the world of raw shooting within years."
Well, it is 2018 now, some 14 years later. I still cannot see that "transformation" today. Most photographers on Nikon or Canon platforms use NEF and CR2 respectively, Sony users use ARW. Lots of Pentax users stick with PEF. DNG simply did not make the big splash you were expecting. Part of that is probably the lost virtual monopoly that Adobe once had and the fact there is a plethora of commercial as well as free options available in-market today. It is perfectly fine for you to only consider only yourself as you did in your previous post but you are not the yardstick by which the world is measured. (nor am I for that matter)

"It will open up raw shooting to more people, more products, and more opportunities, and make it easier for photographers and users of photographs to build more valuable and comprehensive workflows."
It actually didn't do that either. Nothing has become "easier" for photographers compared to what the situation was 14 years ago purely on account of the introduction of DNG alone. DNG turned out to be just one more raw format.

"It will become the accepted archival raw file format. DNG is "the new TIFF", at a different place in people's workflows"
This did not happen either.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 11-01-2018, 10:53 AM  
RAW file format
Posted By newmikey
Replies: 57
Views: 1,757
Yep, oversight on my side - exiftool does indeed write metadata to raw files.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 11-01-2018, 09:21 AM  
RAW file format
Posted By newmikey
Replies: 57
Views: 1,757
It's weird how facts can be spun. I've always thought the period of DNG-only for Pentax was really only a blip in time. As you said, 2014 and that's already 4 years and 6 models ago.


You know, we have a different way of looking at things. I read the manual and look at the menus - if both specifically go out of their way to confirm PEF is the default format, I just assume that to be the case. Maybe my thinking is too simple and one-dimensional, I'll give you that.


Well, that goes a long way to explaining why you're so anxious. As you deleted all of your PEF's, you're in 100% and cannot go back.


Well, sometimes the "secret sauce" gets reverse engineered by 3rd-parties such as the Exiv2 project. I've got nothing against DNG-only cameras, I have a Ricoh GR. I just don't see what value they add. (EDIT: I should have added "other than the camera quality itself")



It's not whether you do it but whether it can be done at all! You made a sensible choice but many people could easily be tricked into doing exactly what you know not to do, and that is the problem with this whole DNG-mess.






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I don't let my DNGs get changed by Lightroom. But PEFs can also be changed by software! To the best of my knowledge, there is no way of detecting whether a PEF has been changed since it left the camera.[COLOR="Silver"]



I do not think I have ever come across software, commercial or open source which can change a PEF/NEC/CR2/,, or any other proprietary raw file. Anyone with a hex editor can hack any file but that is not the point. The point being that you can very easily be tricked into writing directly to a DNG file but never to a proprietary raw while using a standard raw converter.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 11-01-2018, 02:22 AM  
Introducing Pentax Wi-Fi & USB Tether by PentaxForums.com
Posted By newmikey
Replies: 82
Views: 2,862
Now that is absolutely AWESOME! Many thanks for thinking of us Linux users too, much appreciated.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 10-31-2018, 04:57 PM  
Upgrade to my K5 for low light gig photography
Posted By newmikey
Replies: 47
Views: 1,588
K-5 was an awesome camera but AF fared very badly under artificial lighting, often failing to lock on. Wide open with a very narrow DOF that makes shooting under those conditions frustrating. As others have already noted the second generation of the K-5, the K-5 II and IIs solved that problem and can be had for a steal nowadays. The K-70 is a couple of jumps up from there and still very affordable with the KP topping it and then some but at a decently higher price level. Top of the bill would be the K-1 MarkII which is the best you can get if your bank account has maneuvering room.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 10-31-2018, 04:42 PM  
The K20D Club
Posted By newmikey
Replies: 477
Views: 65,522
Ah, the sweet memories! The K20D was easily one of my best-ever Pentax bodies. I did eventually fall into the trap of wanting to update, thinking back the incredible high ISO improvements drove that for me. I eventually went through a K-5 and K-5 IIs in succession, landing on my current K-70. Having said all that nd being really happy with the K-70, I went on a trip to memory lane recently, revisiting Pentax raw files in PEF format going all the way back to my first K110D body (eleven years ago!).

I found I could do better today than I did back then in terms of raw processing and image editing so I decided to randomly pick a few shots I had always liked and redoing them with today's tools. The difference is stark! Using Darktable 2.4.4 and Gimp 2.10.6 is like driving a Ferrari compared to the VW Beetle I used back then (mostly Pentax's own software on Windows - when I still used it occasionally - and UFRaw/Gimp on Linux).

So here are some shots from Ottawa, Krakow, Bucharest, Milan and Prague if memory serves me, all shot in PEF with the K20D. What I especially appreciated this time were DT's integrated lens corrections (LensFun library) wich really do a world of good to the shots I took with the DA16-45mm lens which had quite a bit of distortion and other issues. On some shots, the automatic keystoning does way better than I was ever able to do manually in "ye old days" which is especially visible in the B&W shot of what I think was the staircase of the Museum of Natural History in Ottawa but benefitted almost all of my architecture shots to some degree. (I'm a crooked shooter, have always been. Can't get straight lines straight even if I haven't had a drop to drink).

There are even some files, shot at the edge of what I could get away with on the K20D ISO-wise which I can now process with modern, profiled noise reduction techniques and those shots have suddenly become very nice where back then I rejected them due to image noise.

I appreciate the chance to share as well as getting an incentive to go over more of the K20D files of 2009-2011, it's so much fun to see all the places my work took me. And yes, it was mostly boring airport-hotel-office but I always managed to sneak a few hours of walking time into those 2-3 day visits. Hope you enjoy as much as I did redoing these!

Old K20D raw files reconverted with 2018 software by Mike Bing, on Flickr

Old K20D raw files reconverted with 2018 software by Mike Bing, on Flickr

Old K20D raw files reconverted with 2018 software by Mike Bing, on Flickr

Old K20D raw files reconverted with 2018 software by Mike Bing, on Flickr

Old K20D raw files reconverted with 2018 software by Mike Bing, on Flickr

Old K20D raw files reconverted with 2018 software by Mike Bing, on Flickr
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