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Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 11 Hours Ago  
Wooooot,... 4K !!!
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 91
Views: 6,140
Pfffft,... Handheld with DSLR,... come my friend, let me put this fully rigged AJA Cion on your shoulder, with it's EVF, Shogun Recorder, V-Lock Battery, lens, matte box, filters, and Follow Focus, it's 'only' eight and a half kilos, about two lighter then the same rig on a Red, and half the mass of an Arri Alexa :D :D :D

Now, this Director here, he wants this feature film handheld single take look,...... I'm sure your back will be fiiiiiiine. ;)
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 05-21-2021, 09:23 AM  
Japanese 4K video
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 27
Views: 1,529
Post links to samples when you can. :)
Forum: Pentax K-3 III 05-21-2021, 08:51 AM  
So what about that 4K video ?
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 99
Views: 4,233
One further thought on this, is that they may be taking the conservative approach, and allowing for customers who may use an SD-HC card instead of SD-XC - it's a lowest common denominator approach.

Really! I recall seeing articles quoting the lower number, but it would not surprise me if Panasonic adapts rate to better cards, or have raised the rate in firmware updates.

Try doing it with a mix of HikVision security cameras, and Canon and Sony Camcorders,... That's my Wednesday nights at the moment. :D

We'll need to look at the bits per pixel for stills to know, but even if it's 14 or 16 bits per pixel for stills, some are likely to be thrown away for the conversion to video, this comes down to the amount of processing power is available - 4K video is effectively 24, 25, or 30 3840x2160 Stills per second burst, until you press Stop... A lot of cameras throw away a lot of pixel data to 'get close enough' to what they can process.

---------- Post added 22-05-21 at 01:57 AM ----------

I'm the Tech Director and bring all the gear in,.... It'll be fine.

The recordings are being called "The Tune Up", done by the motorsport show "In Pit Lane".
(yeah, motorsport news show, that has had live music featured as part of the show, going back to the mid '90's)

RMITV is the association the TV show is done under, giving real world training to students, by association and industry alumni, with the show airing on C31 Melbourne, and the In Pit Lane youtube channel.

---------- Post added 22-05-21 at 02:01 AM ----------

That's gonna kill it here in Oz too - ALL cameras should do 24, 25, 30, 50 and 60 as MINIMUM.
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 05-21-2021, 08:33 AM  
Japanese 4K video
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 27
Views: 1,529
It's less of a big deal then most people realize, and if it's been done the right way, it can be a boon for overall image sharpness without later video processing required in the camera.

It's a matter of needing to know the number of pixels on the sensor are used for each pixel in the image, and how those sensor pixels are processed in to the video pixel.
When the number of sensor pixels is mathematically easy to process in to the output size, there's less processing load in the camera, and more of the camera's CPU time can be spent on the Colour Science being applied, getting 'better' pixels, rather then more pixels.

One of the other advantages of the right step down in crop, is how it affects Moire - getting the crop right can nearly eliminate Moire.
This is something we'll need to watch and test.

One other thing to consider, is when it comes to P67 and P645 lenses, is that knowing the crop, an adapter manufacturer can use optics that shrink the image circle to match the crop, turning an APSc body in to a Medium Format 'appearing' video camera, but without the negatives of the larger sensor, such as the increased Rolling Shutter readout skews when panning.
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 05-21-2021, 08:07 AM  
Converting dSLR Movie File to B&W AVI (uncompressed) withoutn loss of resolution
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 18
Views: 719
You're confusing Quicktime the file formats, and Quicktime, the suite of applications that play the file format.

ProRes and .MOV file format started as part of the Quicktime family, but are now very much their own thing, the plugin for VirtualDub is support for playing 'Quicktime Files', not, running the Quicktime applications.

The plugin for VirtualDub to support Quicktime .MOV files is not made by Apple.

Also, what I was directly referring to, was Apple's policies towards allowing usage or rendering of .MOV file on PC's, especially when it comes to exporting ProRes .MOV from NLE's on a PC.
Forum: Pentax K-3 III 05-16-2021, 03:09 AM  
So what about that 4K video ?
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 99
Views: 4,233
Canon and Nikon have both tried models with no video. both attempt Bombed Badly.
Fact is, the vast majority of DSLR buyers, want video that is better then their phones.

Sony has now released a phone with HDMI In that can connect directly to their Mirrorless bodies with HDMI and USB in parallel, to use the Phone as the screen and streaming processor for the Mirrorless camera.
This is how important video is to the vast majority of DSLR and Mirrorless buyers, that demand is so high that the biggest electronics company in the world will make a premium phone just for monitoring and streaming from their camera products.

---------- Post added 16-05-21 at 08:10 PM ----------

I suspect you are correct. And, that is a very generous offer. :)

---------- Post added 16-05-21 at 08:13 PM ----------

Recording Duration is not a technical matter, but a Tarrifs-In-Europe matter - Video Recorders are taxed higher then 'Camera's in the EU - goes back to when 'camera' meant 'film'.

Note on Overheating - it's been a non-issue for me - I've recorded from fresh battery to empty battery on my K-01's, which is about 4 hours total with manual lens, pressing the record button immediately after file stop.

The ONLY time I've seen the Overheating symbol, was with the K-01 in direct sunlight on a 38 degC day in Melbourne. Moving to shade, camera was ready to go after only a few minutes.

---------- Post added 16-05-21 at 08:21 PM ----------

Yes, and Yes, still too low.

19 to 21 mBits on the APSc models, then up to 24 on the KP and maybe the K-1

Test show around 80mBits for 4K on the K-3iii, compared around 200mBits "All I-Frame" for the same on a GH-4, GH-5, A7s, A7s2, etc.

---------- Post added 16-05-21 at 08:27 PM ----------

"Only" four cameras? :D :D :D

Where's your live vision mixing? ;)

Boogie Man Bar on Hoddle St on Wednesday, Live stream "The Tune Up" by In Pit Lane,... I'm adding at least three more cameras this week. (19th May 2021)
Yes, you can come say hi, but I think it's a Metal band this time...

---------- Post added 16-05-21 at 08:39 PM ----------

I offered to do that to CRKennedy here in Australia, the reply was "They would be doing their own video testing in house" and publish later - that was only 3 weeks ago as I type, so with luck, we'll see the results soon.
That will determine whether I add a K-3iii to my K-01's, JVC HD7, Sony VG900, Canon XL-H1 and AJA Cion.

C.R.Kennedy Imaging - YouTube

---------- Post added 16-05-21 at 08:45 PM ----------

Wondering, would the same be true for updating the code to get 10 bit output from the HDMI encoder?
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 05-16-2021, 02:47 AM  
Japanese 4K video
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 27
Views: 1,529

In the first few minutes, I'm noticing the fine detail in the shadows, the bark on the trees showing the data rate is much improved, but still not high enough yet - just before the 4:30 mark, the subject walks past and embankment, where after his shadow passes, there are patches of the stones that flicker and change brightness level, with the patches being areas of separate compression processing.

These artifacts no doubt only show up in edited footage that is getting re-compressed by Youtube.

During those first few minutes, I can also hear the self-noise in the camera's internal systems, some of the motor noise for the IBIS system, sounding more like raised background noise floor then the clicking of the previous systems - I can recognize it as I've held the body of cameras against my ear to listen to the internals :D

It is quiet enough to be mistaken for wind noise by most people.

5:10,... the light though the water bottle,...Niiiiiiice.

6:19,... and there it is, botches of colour as the CoDec runs out of bit's to use when dealing with the noise in low light / high ISO scenes. As the subject fits the head light, note the blotching in the sky, but the sharp blotch-free image where the head light illuminates the fence post.

This will be avoided if we're able to record the HDMI output on to an external recorder with a better CoDec, this is the test we all need to see.
The 8-bit output will limit this though.

Note when walking through the fog, in places the bit allocation of the CoDec actually leave the subject almost transparent as some frame have him in the image and some don't, as the bits are spread around the image.

With Youtubes auto-translate,.. YES! his point about the Colour Science of Pentax in Stills and Video being the same, is something I've kept on about for a long time. Pentax's Colour Science for Jpegs and Video, is far far superior to Canon's, Sony's, Nikon's and Panasonics Video Colour Science, with only Nikon coming close.

He then mentions being able to change shutter speed, f-stop and ISO during recording - this is something that us Pentax Video folk are used too, but other DSLR makers don't seem capable of performing. :D

13:45 is the demo of the IBIS,.. it rocks.

---------- Post added 16-05-21 at 07:56 PM ----------

10 bit HDMI and Flip Screen? ;)

Okay, maybe 200mBits HEVC for the 4K :D

Yep, those sorts of ISO's really need much higher bit rates, but really, if people need to shoot in that low light, they're better off hiring a Gaffer and Lights.
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 05-16-2021, 12:44 AM  
Converting dSLR Movie File to B&W AVI (uncompressed) withoutn loss of resolution
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 18
Views: 719
VirtualDub, and it's more recent VirtualDub64 update, will read Pentax .Mov files, After adding the .Mov plugin. - that's an Apple/Quicktime thing, not a Pentax thing.
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 05-16-2021, 12:21 AM  
CoC/DOF in video
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 1
Views: 377
So much 'nope'.

DoF is not reflected in the Resolution. It's factors are the Lens Field of View, Iris opening for that FoV, and the Size of the Image Circle projected by the lens, and size of the sensor (or film) being used.

So, two cameras, one Full Frame, one Micro 4/3rds, can have Identical image resolution, say HD or 4K, but have completely different DoF, for the same Iris and FoV.

And so, DoF for Stills and Video on the same camera, Are The Same, and You should use the same DoF calculation.

some bodies will crop more in video mode - K-01 thru KP APSc will have about a 1.65 crop in video compared to stills having full APSc of 1.5 crop factor. The new K-3iii crops closer to 1.8 in video mode. Yes, this confuses the issue, but on the same body with no difference in software cropping between modes, the math is the same for stills and video.

When the camera has different crop settings between modes, that's when the math is different.

Circle of Confusion, in film era, was the smallest item that could be reproduced on the film stock. Now in the Digital Era, it is a combination of the Lens and Sensor, with many lenses now being able to project details on the sensor that are narrower then an individual pixel, and so blurring or shifting to moire as the camera moves or focus changes.

As for the DoF calculator - the better ones will allow you to manually set the sensor size, or you can use a different camera preset to get close enough.
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 05-16-2021, 12:03 AM  
Firmware update for shake reduktion in videomode. K-1 and KP.
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 39
Views: 6,407
It was always "quiet enough", as proper video production has the sound recorded by a seperate person on an Audio Recorder, away from the camera handling noises, which as always louder then the internals.
Expect the K-3iii to only have Mic Level input on the socket, not switchable to Line Level, as used for feeds from the Audio Recorder to the Camera.
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 05-06-2021, 08:08 AM  
You guys were right, no one really cares about 4K video on Youtube.
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 64
Views: 5,109
Colour Accuracy,... "Better" pixel, rather then more pixel - ALWAYS the better choice, just ask Alexa owners - it's not even close to 4K, got tons of Cinematography and Best Picture awards though ;)
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 05-06-2021, 07:54 AM  
JordonDucks CroPPY video about Pentax video.
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 113
Views: 5,700
The mistake here, is to assume that the displays have to be over the top of the images, rather then in the borders.
Majority of Cinema systems, the image is clear of most of the overlays. ;)
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 05-02-2021, 01:26 AM  
JordonDucks CroPPY video about Pentax video.
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 113
Views: 5,700
That's where the Mirrorless cameras take the advantage, and where Pentax could strike in with a unique option, if they added a Hybrid viewfinder - OVF when the mirrors down, EVF when it's locked up.

The same option that would make video easy through the eyepiece, would also allow a faster burst rate for stills, as the mirror could stay up and just cycle the shutter leafs.

Having the option to draw histograms, focus peaking and exposure zebra in the OVF, surely the Stills Crowd would like that?
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 04-27-2021, 04:26 AM  
JordonDucks CroPPY video about Pentax video.
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 113
Views: 5,700
That wrist loading has been a factor since the days of VHS-c, Hi-8 and DV - all the 'consumer' camcorders went smaller, single handed, and that let to operators who moved from them to larger sensor cameras, and still using them one handed.

Oddly enough, in the manuals for the Pentax film era SLR's, there used to be a set of guide images on how to hold the SLR for most stable images, right hand on the grip, left hand under the lens, film cover to the cheek, elbows in to the body.
This grip works for taking stills, and is also the ideal grip for doing video, far more stable then single handed with hands and elbows away from the body to look at the LCD, and is still possible with Mirrorless with EVF, and DSLR's with hybrid EVF/OVF viewfinders.

Even on a body as large as the 645Z, this grip gives a stable platform to the camera and smoother motion.

Using that grip on the K-3iii, perhaps with a Loupe over the LCD, and with the mechanical stabilization being back on, should give exceptional results, far beyond any single handed camcorder can achieve.

For hand-held filming, the only other way to alleviate the sort of arm, shoulder, and spine aggravation that the Two-hands-out-front method leads to, is a an ENG / Cine Rig, putting the camera body up in front of the shoulder, with external viewfinder.
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 04-24-2021, 06:25 AM  
JordonDucks CroPPY video about Pentax video.
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 113
Views: 5,700
All you've done is, like others, show that you're willing to speak about that which you have no experience in.

This is a recurring theme, where the "My Pentax Should Only Be A Stills Camera" mouthpieces wander in to the VIDEO area to tell us whom Do Use Video that we shouldn't be allowed to.

It's long past due that those opinions should be keep to yourselves, rather then negatively impact those of us who are sick of hearing them ad nauseam.

---------- Post added 24-04-21 at 11:30 PM ----------

You missed Side-Stepping the Clutch, or the advanced class, "Clutchless shifting through Rev Matching" ;)

The latter is great for left foot braking while down shifting.
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 04-21-2021, 11:16 PM  
JordonDucks CroPPY video about Pentax video.
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 113
Views: 5,700
Oh, look, you're so witty, my hero.

Now, would any of you who don't use video like to try answer the question, or keep being opinionated about something you don't know about ?
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 04-19-2021, 06:37 AM  
JordonDucks CroPPY video about Pentax video.
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 113
Views: 5,700
Then answer this for me - Why do you think you're qualified to pass judgement, or comment on, the video functions, if you've never used them?
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 04-15-2021, 10:38 PM  
JordonDucks CroPPY video about Pentax video.
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 113
Views: 5,700
No, the one where they announced they were about to shoot on K-01.
(Just went and looked quickly, can't even recall which video that was, but noted there are a lot with Comments Disabled.)

---------- Post added 16-04-21 at 03:51 PM ----------

Thankyou, but I think I may have added confusion with the firmware reference - v1.3 onwards, the ISO ramping when in Manual Video Exposure, was finally disabled by Pentax - v1, 1.1, 1.2, when you opened or closed the IRIS, the ISO compensated to maintain exposure, much as it still does if using a Manual lens and having the "Exposure Setting" under the Video menu set to Program or Aperture Priority.

v1.3 onwards, with Exposure Setting set to Manual, when you move the Iris ring, the exposure changes, same as after pressing record, using the +/- button on the top to shift from Shutter Speed selection to Iris selection for the dial control, the Iris will stop down or up at user command.

In a reply to a Youtube comment, Jordan shows he's misunderstood the "Using Aperture Ring" setting for this function, where the only thing that does is allow the shutter to fire or recording to start with lenses not in the "A" position for KA lenses, or at any Iris position for K and KM lenses, or any lens attached with mechanical adapter, such as the P67-to-K adapter.

He also stated the camera used is on v1.5 firmware, the last firmware issued, so the behaviour he's seeing means the Exposure Setting in Video Menu is incorrectly chosen for what he assumed would be normal behavior with manual lenses, rather then the Ease Of Use behaviour the Pentax engineers created for 'average' buyers who more often then not shoot on full auto.

: Craig PM'd me and checked firmware numbers, and yes, v1.03, v1.05 are the correct number sequences.

K-01 Firmware can be found at the link below, but note also, the changelog items, are not the full list of changes made, especially regarding v1.03.
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 04-15-2021, 12:11 PM  
JordonDucks CroPPY video about Pentax video.
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 113
Views: 5,700
he he he,... that links still kicking around here? Yah, secret sauce, and plenty of discussions on it here, and I left a post of instructional tips on the DPReview video where they said they'd be shooting on K-01, and on one of the subsequent videos, but seeing no change in competency level, I didn't watch past the start of the second. There wasn't much point given all the mistakes being made over and over regarding exposure. I highly expect DPR is editing in FCP-X, which will just clip the footage, unlike Resolve or GV Edius - the latter is very good with Pentax video.

I don't use the K-01 for too many corporate, commercial or music productions any more, but it's still fabulous for behind scenes stuff and artistic photographic shoots, I'll be using both of mine to do some Steroescopic stills before long. My collection of FF and MF Primes finds more use on the front of my AJA Cion for a lot of that stuff now, or on my VG900E for streaming in Zoom, Teams, Streamyard, etc, while I do sports streaming on Hikvision cameras for fixed cams in places you can put operators, and a Canon XL-H1 recording to Atomos Shogun for single cam streams.
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 04-15-2021, 10:59 AM  
JordonDucks CroPPY video about Pentax video.
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 113
Views: 5,700
If Jordan ever actually takes the time to read some of the posts on the videos, he'd find I left comprehensive instructions on how to get good quality vision from the K-01.

Sure, I have a unique perspective, but used correctly, the K-01 video is far supperior to the Canon 7D, 5DMk2, 6D of the era.
Nikons and Sony's were non-starters for video when the K-01 was released, and the GH-2 was the king of video, but only because Panasonic had really good marketing and support of video and cinema owners.

Frankly, Jordan should stick to filming on overpriced toys, he's no longer got a baseline reference of what it's like to shoot when you don't have corporate backing.

Reading many of the comments on this post reminds me, that there's a lot of people here who 'don't use video on DSLR',.. but feel entitled to espouse their Oh-So-Important opinions on video,.. Having to see that over and over is why I rarely post here anymore, as one of the few people who has used Pentax products SOLELY for video, I can be completely honest in telling everyone,....

If You Can't Get Good Video From a Pentax, It's Not The Camera, It's You.

---------- Post added 16-04-21 at 04:46 AM ----------

That's a shame,.... You clearly haven't used it to read any of the many posts on getting good quality video out of the K-01.

Wrong. Update the Firmware to V1.3 or beyond and try again, and make sure the "Exposure Setting" in the Video menu is set to M, for Manual, and not Program or Aperture Priority.

Timeline is incorrect - Pentax's K-5 and K-5ii had Very Good sensor shifting based stabilisation, it was disabled after that because according to 'customer feedback reports' it could be heard on video recordings.... No mention of screw drive motor, just the sensor shifting,... IMHO, their sensor supplier may have pressured them to turn it off, as it was technology they couldn't offer on their own routinely overheating DSLR's.

It's still there on ALL Pentax DSLR's, and can be demonstrated by using Live View for Stills and having the Sensor Shift set to Always On,.. so if the HDMI wasn't screwed and locked to 1080i30 on the DSLR's (720i60 when you hit record,..) one would be able to record the near steadicam like quality of handheld video, as was possible on the K-5's.

The K-3iii marks the 'return' of properly stabilized video.
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 03-29-2021, 09:45 PM  
Bitrates for video - specific to camera models?
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 8
Views: 985
TBH, most users wouldn't notice most of the time. Where it is noticeable on the KP, was shooting at night at 1600 and 3200 ISO, where the HD footage became 'usable' compared to the mess of colour blotching that earlier models get with the 19mbits limit.

Daytime or properly lit environments, most Pentax footage is at 100 or 200 ISO, and no higher then 800 indoors at night in my experience, thanks to all the primes being adequately fast, the zooms might need more light.
Forum: Pentax K-01 03-21-2021, 04:48 AM  
Using the K-01 as a webcam
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 17
Views: 1,534
The 920 and 922 are good webcams, the only real limitation of then is logitech not offering narrower lens angles,,.

I use a Sony VG900E full frame camcorder with Pentax KM 35mm F2, feeding the HDMI output in to a HDMI-to-RTSP converter, in to a PC running vMix, and then NDI out from there to my laptop using the Newtek NDI Virtual Input to make the NDI feed appear to Zoom as a webcam.

The combination of the 35mm and FF sensor, give a shallow enough DoF to blur out the background, and just narror enough to not have a distorted face.

The rest of the setup allows me to add feeds from any of my IP based cameras, along with adding graphics, replaying videos, or using the NDI Screen Capture utility to turn a desktop in to another video source as if it's a camera.
Forum: Pentax K-01 03-05-2021, 01:12 AM  
My K-01's
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 21
Views: 4,297
I would 100% pull the Black and Silver apart, and swap all the plastic parts over, full a full silver and a full black body.
Forum: Video and Pentax HDSLRs 03-05-2021, 01:10 AM  
Audio Calibration with External Mic?
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 8
Views: 1,043
K5iis only uses 32kHz sample rate, so the onboard audio is only useful for sync sound, and you'll need the H1n's recording for final mix down.

Stick with the headphone level output, start with it at the lowest setting, and slowly turn it up while recording someone speaking normally, then play back the file, listening for when the voice distorts, drop the output level of the H1n back one or two steps from there.
And, do the test recording in steps - don't go from silent to full output in one test, do 0 to 5 first, rather then risk overdriving the K-5's input to the point of damaging it.
Forum: Pentax K-01 03-05-2021, 12:43 AM  
Using the K-01 as a webcam
Posted By PiDicus Rex
Replies: 17
Views: 1,534
The HDMI output Only works in Playback mode, making it impossible to use it as a webcam or drive an external monitor.

Plugging in the HDMI cable swaps a K-01 in to playback mode too.

It's one of the Big Four Firmware faults we reported on from the day the camera was released, none of them have ever been addressed.

---------- Post added 05-03-21 at 06:46 PM ----------

Would that be from the Analog output - IIRC, the K-5 doesn't have HDMI at all.

Analog isn't high enough quality for Zoom or Skype or Teams.

---------- Post added 05-03-21 at 06:50 PM ----------

If you want to hit us up, you can learn a heap from this panel.

Alex Lindsay - YouTube

You can even ask me about the Pentax KA 35 f2 in front of my Sony NEX-VG900E, and access knowledge on lighting and sound specific to streaming.

---------- Post added 05-03-21 at 06:55 PM ----------

Yup, y'd think it would be a no-brainer.

Sony cameras with Wifi can be set up to do it, Canon quickly pushed out a firmware update to stream out of the USB port in to a PC or Mac or even a phone!

Sony has released the brand new Xperia Pro phone that does HDMI in and can control and upload media in the background off a Sony MILC's USB while viewing the image by the HDMI.

Pentax would need to fix the Video firmware before they could add any sort of streaming output, which honestly, should be possible at 720 and 1080 via the USB2, or 720 alone via the WiFi enabled SD Cards
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