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Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 11-26-2011, 11:25 AM  
Ricoh "will plug a gap in the market" in 2012
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 150
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The 14-42mm lens is to bit to fit in a cargo pants pocket.



Indeed the X10 is close. Petty that the lens protrudes just a tiny bit too much to fit in a cargo pants pocket.


Don't mean to nitpick but being pocketable makes it unique, if not that there already quite a few options.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 11-26-2011, 03:03 AM  
Ricoh "will plug a gap in the market" in 2012
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 150
Views: 24,934
I'm not talking about a super zoom. 24-60mm tot 24-96mm would do. As said it's about as much image quality in a pocketable body with some zoom capability.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 11-25-2011, 01:20 PM  
Ricoh "will plug a gap in the market" in 2012
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 150
Views: 24,934
Well there is a gap in the market; a fixed zoom lens pocketable compact with a Nikon 1 sized sensor.

Market:

- People that want the best possible IQ in pocketable compact with zoom function.
- LX5, XZ-1, EX1 buyers
- People who want a serious compact to go with their DSLR
- People who bought a DSLR for the IQ of the sensor size and seeing their camera isn't getting much use due to it's size and settle for a smaller sensor and no lens interchangebility.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 07-09-2010, 11:34 AM  
Pentax DA★25-350mm F3.5-5.6 SDM ?
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 25
Views: 7,453
Says who? It may be your idea, for me the idea is too change lenses less often.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 06-28-2010, 01:52 AM  
Pentax DA★25-350mm F3.5-5.6 SDM ?
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 25
Views: 7,453
Sure for a single lens solution. However, when coupled with a 12-24mm, a 25-350mm covers pretty much 99% of the generally used range for most people. Those two zooms and a few primes for specific or IQ purposes would go a long way of covering most of the bases for a lot of people.

I'm not saying it should be done or is a good idea. Just saying there could be sound reasoning behind such a lens. I think I would personally prefer something that starts a bit wider, just to reduce the amount of lens switching. A 16-90mm F3.5-5.6 with a 70-300mm F3.2-4.5.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 03-04-2010, 05:30 PM  
Pentax K-5 (?) - new camera this year
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 359
Views: 129,484
Agreed 100%, except that perhaps they could also use the Sony 14.2mp sensor and K-7 prism if the K-7 successor would move to a 100%, 1.0x prism. A combination of such a "K-5" and K-7 successor would really make people start to sit up and take notice of Pentax as a force to reckon with.

The second scenario you mention would be an exact copy of the K200D/K20D failure after the K100D/K10D success. Too little innovation, too little ambition and too much marginal playing around with unimportant features instead of bringing the cameras to the next level. It would be like Sony's plastic fantastic camera explosion just with fewer models, in other words, failure.
Forum: Non-Pentax Cameras: Canon, Nikon, etc. 02-25-2010, 04:09 PM  
Canon S90: Should Pentax Take Note?
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 14
Views: 4,727
If the Samsung TL 500 is any good, I wouldn't mind a rebranded/styled, pentax version. I'm not sure Samsung will let them.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 01-01-2010, 04:12 PM  
The ideal Pentax model range
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 41
Views: 7,099
I agree with you that many would prefer a faster fixed focal length. On the other hand many prefer to be able to zoom. The first category is already catered for in this segment, the latter part isn't, that my reason for making it a zoom lens. Of course it hard to tell what would be the better route. Also people really fancying low light performance could always choose the EVIL aps-c model or one of the DSLR's (same goes for zoom I suppose).
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 12-30-2009, 11:08 AM  
The ideal Pentax model range
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 41
Views: 7,099
Many feel different as proven by the surge of large sensored compact-ish camera being launched lately.



Sorry but I clearly stated this should be a truly pocketable camera, that's the sole reason I put it in the list next to the EVIL aps-c models. If it is technically not possible like I specified it it shouldn't be built in the first place since there would be no market for it.



Depends on IQ and specification.



Why would it have low specifications? I got a strong feeling you're just making things up now just for the sake of arguing, I hope I'm wrong.



See above.



I see this as a valid point. However, there are already a number of fixed focal length large sensor compacts, a zoom lens would compromise lens speed, but add flexibility. A larger part would prefer the former and some part of the market the latter. The latter part is currently not being serve so has less competition. What is better is hard to tell. Might be an interesting thread topic in itself.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 12-29-2009, 11:13 AM  
The ideal Pentax model range
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 41
Views: 7,099
I see three advantages:
1 At base ISO the large sensor camera will provide better image quality. Granted you will need to increase ISO faster because of the slower lens, but at the times you can stick to base ISO, image quality will be better.
2 Large sensor camera get way more market attention
3 A serious large sensor compact will do more to boost Pentax brand standing



People will also be willing to pay quite a bit more for a serious large sensor compact.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 12-28-2009, 12:59 PM  
The ideal Pentax model range
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 41
Views: 7,099
I agree, I'm not a frequent poster and didn't see the this one: Pentax DSLR Discussion - PentaxForums.com

where it probably belongs. My apologies.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 12-27-2009, 02:55 AM  
The ideal Pentax model range
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 41
Views: 7,099
I reckon Panasonic has been THE innovative force in the P&S market. When they launched the LX-3 I immediately said they should've done a smaller aperture say 5x zoom as well. Now they have two camera's with maximized front elements for a pocketable compact, one has 2.5x zoom the other 12x. Plenty of room to fit a 6x zoom in between I'd say.



To me the more interesting aspect is why you disagree with the 4/3 option.



That could be a workable option as well.



I see a role for the 645D as a halo product. Main purpose being help built the Pentax brand value long term. FF development is still a bit crystal ball, any sensor breakthrough could strongly reduce the need for FF except for DOF purposes. On the other hands FF sensors have continuously become cheaper. Future developments are hard to predict.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 12-26-2009, 11:53 AM  
The ideal Pentax model range
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 41
Views: 7,099
Okay I see your point, but as you say that not as relevant for fixed lens cameras.



I think every brand that makes a well working, truly pocketable large sensored compact will be rewarded with the attention, respect and appreciation from many many serious photographers around the world. So to me the core goal for this fixed zoom lens 4/3 compact is not to compete in that market. To me the core goal is to signal to serious shooters, by offering a photographers oriented model for them in every segment, that you understand what makes them tick and across the board you have a model to offer them so that they realized what the Pentax brand is really about and start contemplating if that brand isn't one they want to identify themselves with and buy into. Of course you don't want to make a loss by making such a compact, so that's why I said that partly outsourcing or sharing development would prolly be a wise thing to do.

That's the whole idea behind this line up thing, a comprehensive model line consistently targeting the serious shooter in every segment (except entry level to a degree). Doing this in my view would significantly boost the Pentax brand recognition and that's needed in the long term to gain market share. Many of the people who have still worked with Pentax film cameras and know their heritage and philosophy don't realize that young novice camera buyers don't share that same appreciation and might even perceive Pentax as some cheap B-market brand that no pro uses (unlike Canon or Nikon). If you have a model range where the gross of your cameras get described by every reviewer as the clear photographers choice of it's segment, people entering the camera market will perceive your brand in a much more favourable way and will be much likely buy your entry level models as well.



You mean like a Canon G9/10/11?
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 12-26-2009, 10:26 AM  
The ideal Pentax model range
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 41
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I hope it's clear that the EVIL camera I proposed is in fact an aps-c one?



I'm interesting in your explanation of how exactly technology development has made what technical advantages moot?

Let me explain my reasoning once more, many people like a pocketable, fixed zoom lens camera like the LX-3, but wish the sensor were a bit bigger so image quality at base ISO is excellent. As far as I know noone ever made a truly pocketable camera with a fixed zoom lens and a bigger than 1/1.6'' sensor. As said I hope something like that would be possible with aps-c, but I suspect it might be difficult enough to realise with a 4/3 sensor.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 12-26-2009, 08:10 AM  
The ideal Pentax model range
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 41
Views: 7,099
Thanks



I'm afraid so to, just hope they have long term vision of where they would want to take their line up and slowly but steadily built toward achieving that.




I don't drink in the morning. :P



I'm not talking about what I think the line up WILL be, but rather what I would like it to be and asking what line up you guys would like to see.




Well like I said, just a proposal so not saying it SHOULD be 4/3. The reason I chose 4/3 because it tries to target a specific user group. This particular target group wants something that is truly pocketable (not nearly), which has some zoom range, is stabilized and has excellent image quality at base ISO. This target group understands that some compromises are required to allow zooming in a truly pocketable package and therefor they accept that IQ get's worse quicker above base ISO. You need a truly pocketable advanced model since some people want that to be able to take it with them all the time.

My estimate is that it require a smaller 4/3 sensor to allow some zooming in a truly pocketable camera. If aps-c is possible within the same requirement framework then of course I would prefer that myself as well. The Leica you mention however, does not zoom and has no stabilization. People that want a aps-c sensor and don't care for zoom can always take the aps-c EVIL model and attach a pancake prime to it. Of course it won't be truly pocketable, but you can't offer everyone everything.



If that is possible in a truly pocketable package I'd very much like that myself.



Saying 4/3 is garbage is a bit ridiculous. Different people have different needs and desires. For a certain group of people 4/3 is the right size. Only using it for a fixed lens model and not jumping aboard the EVIL M4/3 platform means that you don't have to commit a whole new lens range for that specific (for Pentax alien) sensor size. I reckon that the development of the mentioned fixed lens 4/3 model would have to be largely outsourced or at least shared anyway.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 12-26-2009, 03:26 AM  
The ideal Pentax model range
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 41
Views: 7,099
I already posted something about a possible Pentax camera range on DPreview, but replies were not all very useful.

This line up is designed around the following core ideas:

* The camera range must be comprehensive
* All models must be logically placed towards each other and towards a clear target audience
* The models must be competitive, but not identical with the competition. This means staying in the ball park in most areas and being better in typical Pentax strong points
* All models need to be relatively compact, but certain models are specifically designed for that goal so that not the whole range of models is overly compromised just for the sake of size.
* All models must strengthen Pentax' image as a photographers choice brand (the higher the level of the camera the more important)
* For that last purpose models must show:

- good built quality, ergonomics and furthermore environmental sealing on all but entry models
- good IQ
- great user interface (means hyperprogram and dual dials on all but entry models)
- Largest viewfinders in class (means prism on all but entry DSLR)
- In body IS on DSLR and EVIL, body or optical in fixed lens 4/3
- Continuation of excellent backward lens compatibility on both DSLR and EVIL
- Models that draw attention from other system users and which Pentax users can aspire to (fixed lens 4/3 compact, aps-C EVIL, K-1, 645D)
- Models that can be used by pro's to strengthen brand image (K-1 and 645D)

I'm not saying Pentax can easily create a line up like this, just a range of camera's I would choose if resources were not as much an issue. I know there are some weak points in this proposal for instance possibly relation between cost and MSRP. The names used are just that, names:

1) A 4/3 sensored fixed zoom lens stabilized compact for people that want truly pocketable image quality and photographic control.

2) A aps-c sensored stabilized EVIL camera for those that want great combination of image quality, control, changeable lenses and compact size.

3) Entry level aps-c DSLR

4) Enthusiast level aps-c DSLR

5) Top level aps-c DSLR

6) 645D


1) Pentax F-43

The first camera would be a very serious fixed zoom lens 4/3 sensored stabilized compact that would be truly portable. Zoom range would be limited to 2x or 2.5x 28-56mm or 24-48mm at F3.5-5.6 lens to keep it pocketable. The only stabilized compact truly pocketable with a large sensor and zoom functionality. Unique selling points:

* Cheapest truly pocketable large sensor camera
* Only truly pocketable large sensor zoom camera
* Zoom lens, stabilized, faster, better LCD and cheaper than Leica X-1
* Much larger sensor, dual dials compared to LX-3

Specs:
12mp 4/3 sensor
Fixed 24-60mm or 24-48mm F3.5-5.6 lens

Dual dials
Optional EVF
3.0' 920.000 LCD
SDXC
MSRP: $699


2) Pentax I-A

This is the APS-C sized in body stabilized EVIL camera. Why APS-C? Interchangable makes it not really pocketable anyway, so then the larger size of the APS-C approach is less of a problem, further more an adaptor would allow more sensible use of current lenses. Perhaps some synergy with Samsung is still an option and a specced down cheaper model could be made as well. K-mount adapter will be available. Unique selling points:

* Larger sensor than M43 competitors
* In body stabilization
* Lot's of pancakes lenses already available
* Larger sensor, dual dials and better LCD than EP-2
* Larger sensor, in body stabilisation, dual dials and higher res. LCD than GF1

Specs:
16.2mp Sony APS-C
Interchangable lens

Dual dials
Optional EVF (same as F-43)
3.0' 920.000 LCD
SDXC
MSRP: $999


3) K-X (or successor)


4) K-A

The mid end enthusiast level, K-7 size and viewfinder (might be K20D VF as well), WR, dual dials. Basically will leave any Nikon D90 no chance in any objective test. Unique selling points:

* Largest viewfinder by far in it's class
* Only weather resistant camera in it's class
* Fastest camera in it's class
* Only camera in it's class with such specification and in body stabilization
* Best relation between size and capability in it's class

Specs:
14.2mp Sony APS-C
5 FPS
1/6000
0.92x, 100% viewfinder
Dual dials
3.0' 920.000 LCD
SDXC
MSRP: $999


5) K-1

The no compromise APS-C top model with a new Sony sensor (16mp or what ever it will be), 1.0x, 100X viewfinder, largest viewfinder in this segment (larger than the Canon 7D), 7 FPS and DUAL SDXC slots. This model with be a tiny bit bigger than the K-7 (roughly K20D size) to accommodate the much larger viewfinder and a taller grip. Still very compact for it's capability, but larger than the K-7. People putting more value on size can choose the K-A and I-A instead. Unique selling points:

* Cheapest top APS-C camera
* Largest viewfinder in it's class
* Only real top APS-C camera with in body stabilization
* Smallest top APS-C camera

Specs:

16.2mp Sony APS-C
7 FPS
1.0x, 100% viewfinder
Dual dials
3.0' 920.000 LCD
Dual slot SDXC
MSRP: $1599


6) 645D


This is just an idea, meant as a starting point for some discussion and NOT an end proposal, so feel free to leave your comment.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 05-21-2009, 03:54 AM  
Major upgrade to Photo Browser and Lab
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 12
Views: 2,358
That does look very nice indeed, definite plus.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 05-06-2009, 02:50 PM  
Okay, No More Leak of the K-7, Its Time to Sum it Up!
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 141
Views: 19,174
The problem is some people have insufficient patience.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 05-06-2009, 08:24 AM  
Okay, No More Leak of the K-7, Its Time to Sum it Up!
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 141
Views: 19,174
Couldn't agree more. Less than 100% coverage adds an additional complication to composing that I find very unappealing.

PS. I would call it SAFVOX III EVO. SAFVOX III hardware, but evolution in algorithms and thus performance (or just 3.2).
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 04-30-2009, 06:40 AM  
Enjoy Waiting! (k7 final pic)
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 210
Views: 46,136
If there now is a dedicated ISO button the OK-button could become the white balance button.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 04-28-2009, 02:09 AM  
Great News: DA 18-55 *WR* Kit Lens to Come!
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 53
Views: 10,628
Weather sealing the kit lens would be a very nice move, but as said by someone else if you already got a 18-55mm L kit lens why still maintain 18-55mm for the second one and even add weather sealing to it? I think a 16-55mm or 16-60mm F3.5-5.6 weather sealed kit lens would really add much more appeal to lure people to the Pentax brand and with the extra wide angle and weather sealing really would signal that Pentax does things more the photographers way then other brands even in the kit lenses.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 02-19-2009, 04:18 PM  
K200D is officially discontinued
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 35
Views: 8,016
There is nothing wrong with the camera, it might not have been very successfully positioned for the mass market, but if the camera and it's specs appeal to you I would certainly not let the discontinuation of production keep you from buying it. With the prices you generally pay for it now it really is a bargain.
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 07-30-2008, 11:34 AM  
Tamron 18-270
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 8
Views: 8,725
Perhaps they expect Sigma to launch a successor at photokina to their now over classed 18-200mm design and this is sort of a pre-emptive strike to not let them get the full super zoom stage there? (I know far fetched speculation).

Two things are striking, only Canon and Nikon mounts and pretty significant size increase yet no improvement in aperture on both ends (perhaps in between?). Of course it goes to 270mm now perhaps with slightly improved sharpness at 200mm+ and the VC prolly increases it's size, but where does that leave body stabilized DSLR owners? Will they be "stuck" with the 18-250mm design, are they gonna slim the new one down without VC or just keep the size? I reckon most body stabilized DSLR owners would've preferred a larger aperture if a new design was gonna be that much bigger.
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 06-07-2008, 03:03 AM  
70-300mm F3.2-4.5
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 4
Views: 1,295
Yeah 300mm x 1.53 x 1.4 or 1.5 would be plenty for me as well.




I think forummember Richardday is about to test a 55-300mm with one of his TC, I reckon his experience is gonna be interesting. I think for moving objects in dim conditions is gonna be hard.

One thing to think about though (forgot about it myself) is that the AF uses the widest aperture even if you shoot at F8 or F11. What I want to say is that AF with a max. aperture F8.7 is not going to be as good as using F11 on a lens with max aperture F5.6 for instance.








Yeah that might work for me as well, just that they're larger heavier and more expensive, so that makes them less attractive for me.



Looking forward to hearing how well that combo works for you.
Forum: Pentax SLR Lens Discussion 06-06-2008, 09:55 AM  
70-300mm F3.2-4.5
Posted By CSpronken
Replies: 4
Views: 1,295
I started a discussion about this lens a while ago on DPreview:
Why no 70-300mm F3.5-4.5?: Pentax SLR Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review

I'm the kind of guy that likes to walk around with reasonably light and hand holdable gear looking for scenery, patterns, compositions that sort of thing. If I walk with my brother he is always the one saying: you see that rabbit, see that bird or anything else that escapes my attention or out distances the sharpness of my eye. So very far range (300mm+) is not really my priority however when the opportunity does arise I would hate to think that I brought a pretty expensive DSLR with a telelens and not be able to get a decent close up shot of good quality.

For image quality sake I'm willing to split up my most used focal range (say 17-300mm) up with two hand holdable yet reasonably bright lenses (17-70mm and 70-300mm). On those occasions that I do want to shoot more than 300mm I like the option of adding a 1.4x TC and retain decent quality and aperture. I don't really like any xxx-400mm lens, because those are generally heavier and I don't really fancy compromising (aperture, wide end) my most used range (under 300mm) because of an occasional 300mm+ shot.

For this reason I would like a 70-300mm F3.2-4.5 lens with the following specification:

- Focal length: 70-300mm
- Max. Aperture: F3.2-4.5
- Size: 80x150mm, filter 72mm
- Weight: 850-1000gr
- Constr: Outer zooming
- MSRP: 500-750

It would be outer zooming to keep cost, size and weight down, however it's optical performance would have to stay close to the likes of the FA* 300mm F4.5 and Sigma 100-300mm F4 to remain usable with a 1.4x TC. The problem I have with the latter is cost, size and weight as well a narrow wide end. A 70-200mm F2.8 with a 1.4x and/or 2.0x TC is another option although much more expensive and the zoom range would be somewhat narrow. Then there is Pentax own 60-250mm, which does look interesting. However I do expect it to be quite large and expensive with it's inner zooming design and it would need a 1.7x TC to get similar reach.

Use of a 1.4x TC with the proposed 70-300mm lens would give a 98-420mm F4.5-6.3, still a very usable focal and aperture range in my view. Now I don't see anything like this coming from Pentax themselves, but for instance Tamron doesn't really have anything like it in it's range. To me this would be close to the ideal lens:

- I wouldn't go bankrupt when buying it.
- Still relatively light and compact, so I can easily walk around with it and shoot it handheld.
- Very usable aperture throughout it's range.
- Pretty good sharpness (needed to be usable with a TC).
- Very nice 98-420mm F4.5-6.3 when used with a 1.4x TC.


Anyone else shoots more or less the way I do and like a lens like that?
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