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Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 02-29-2008, 05:34 PM  
Advice for traveling
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 17
Views: 3,210
The 50mm lens is a light tele lens on your camera, good for close (in distance) portraits but in most other cases it has a way too narrow angle of view indoors. I would rather take the 24mm to use as a slightly wide normal lens, it is comparable to a 36mm lens on 35mm body. Perfect for streetphoto, surroundings and environments.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 02-29-2008, 05:07 PM  
Time for a new rumour on K30D
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 34
Views: 20,304
A K10D has 95% viewfinder coverage of a 1.5 crop sensor 23.5x15.7mm, and 0.95x magnification.
That means:

C=0.95 #coverage
M=0.95 #magnification
(23.5 x C x M) x (15.7 x C x M) = 300 square millimeters.

Now compare to a K1000:

C=0.95
M=0.88 #guessing conservative here
(36 x C x M) x (24 x C x M) = 603 square millimeters.

No wonder your eyes hurt..
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 02-19-2008, 02:59 AM  
A corporate continuum?
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 24
Views: 3,096
Opposite??? Canon, Nikon, Pentax, Sony, Olympus, whatever.. are all competing in the same mainstream be-just-like-the-other-guy, behaving like a heard of sheep where no one dare to be different. Squint your eyes and you cannot tell the difference between any of them, they are so alike that you just as well can let the price decide.

There is also nothing even resembling a KISS philosophy about any of them, they are all perfect examples of the just the opposite - pure clutter. A Leica M8, that is an example of Keep It Simple Stupid. The M8 is also an example of beeing different and not just another brick in a grey wall of bordom. But that is a rangefinder, in the DSLR market there are no big choises for a customer to make toaday. People can buy a camera blindfolded, it doesent matter. Its like in soviet, like a choise between Vaz or Lada. Imagine your self blindfolded in a camera store with all the brands in front of you. You may, just may recognize the camera you are most familiar with, but you have to feel your way into very small details to tell it apart from the others.



Get real. That is coward corporate newspeak coming out of the market departments. The differences are so small that there is allmost no piont in choosing at all. It is like the dress code for men in the corporate executive boardroom. I think it resembles a case of H.C. Andersens The Emperors new clothes, in the same way as communist leaders told its people that they had a world of choices.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 02-16-2008, 11:27 AM  
My wish for the new DSLR - BE version
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 3
Views: 1,371
You are not alone.

Though i am one of those that can read the last line when i get my eyes checked. You know, the line that says "Printed by yada yada..." (well.. almost). Despite this i think the current viewfinders are pure crap, it is like a small keyhole. I can imagine the big frustration for a person with glasses who do not see as well as i do. But it do not neccesarily have to be brigheter, when it gets larger you feel like it is brighter. Current viewfinders has 0.9-something of the area of the crop factor sensor. Some cameras from late seventies had actually almost twice the viewfinder area compared to current DSLRs, though they was not as bright due to a real focusing screen made for manual focus, but they felt just as bright.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 02-16-2008, 11:06 AM  
Poll: Poll - Basic but high end ME or LX-D Limited
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 33
Views: 4,307
Of course, no one wants to pay more than neccesary. That goes for me too, if there was a camera like a digital ME or Chinon CE-4 or whatever camera from that time. It does not hurt to pay less if it is possible.

But since it is a niche we are talking about, even a camera that cannot be bought for any price today. I chose the price accordingly. There is a reason to why a Leica M8 goes for 5K, and people are still buying it. I am also convinced that the market for a "M8 but SLR" is a lot bigger, even if the price is the same as the M8 price.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 02-15-2008, 03:00 AM  
Poll: Poll - Basic but high end ME or LX-D Limited
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 33
Views: 4,307
Sadly, that is also what i think will happen. Sadly for me, but not for you. About the market i do not agree, i think the market is a lot bigger than the niche the M8 lives in, but still only a niche of the total.

But if it anyway surfaces something like it, i also agree that it probably wont be Pentax making it since they are competing in the same mainstream with Nikon and Canon. Maybe some Russian or Chinese maker like Zenit, Phenix or Seagull will do it, probably using the K-mount. But on the other hand, Kenko (also Hoya owned) did announce a new 35mm camera, made in China by Phenix..

I would also be very happy, and fully satisfied with something like the e-film (that was not cheap either), but i do not think that will happen due to bought up patents.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 02-15-2008, 02:21 AM  
Poll: Poll - Basic but high end ME or LX-D Limited
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 33
Views: 4,307
That is quite close to what i want.

But i think it is better to have the on/off on the shutter spreed dial.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 02-14-2008, 05:59 PM  
Poll: Poll - Basic but high end ME or LX-D Limited
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 33
Views: 4,307
The same that justifies the even higher price of a Leica M8.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 02-14-2008, 05:53 PM  
Poll: Poll - Basic but high end ME or LX-D Limited
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 33
Views: 4,307
BTW.
Today i think this is much more doable than it was back then. I followed most new around that e-film around 2001-2002, and as i understand they did really make some fully working prototypes. I think they had some patents too. But those patents is probably a reason why it cannot be done today, i remeber that some of the big guns bought the patens when Silicon film went bankrupt. So, maybe 2020 it can be done again, when the patents run out...
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 02-14-2008, 05:44 PM  
Poll: Poll - Basic but high end ME or LX-D Limited
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 33
Views: 4,307
A company named Silicon film had that idea back in 2000. They never managed to make any products until their money ran out. But they where anyway too early, sensors where too small at that time, making a terrible crop factor. I found their site at the wayback machine, a page from mars 2002 with a nice picture of ther e-film cartridge loaded in a camera:

http://web.archive.org/web/20020326103823/http://siliconfilm.com/

At that time 2000-2001 i also think their innovation posed a threat to Nikon and Canon that was well on their way developing DSLR cameras. If Silicon film had succeeded, with a reasonable crop sensor. I would not have bought my first DSLR.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 02-14-2008, 05:29 PM  
Poll: Poll - Basic but high end ME or LX-D Limited
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 33
Views: 4,307
The questions where made as short as possible, the point is to read the post where it is explained in detail and then answer the poll. The camera described is something like a digital version of the SLR cameras from late seveties. Not a cheapo plastic one, but really high quality insted, ment to be used manually with manual lenses. The same "think" behind it as a Leica M8, but SLR instead. Yes, it is niche camera, not ment for anyone or beginners. And since it is a niche, like the M8, the price will be high to be able to get profit from the small volume. I guess the same is true for the FA Limited lenses.

What i do not understand is why people get offensive by the idea and writes comments like this. What are you afraid of?
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 02-14-2008, 05:04 PM  
New Leica M8 Full-Frame announced at PMA !
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 59
Views: 8,033
Exactly. We are all different. I have never really appreciated rangefinders, but if i was a "one body, one lens" kind of photographer, i would have loved it and bought it. I usually move betwen the extremes (well..) wideangle, tele and macro, and i prefer manual operation and manual lenses. But since i want digital workflow, digital images and want to change iso and whitebalance, it should also be digital. Unfortunately there is no camera like "M8 but SLR" to buy, regardles amount of money.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 02-14-2008, 07:13 AM  
Poll: Poll - Basic but high end ME or LX-D Limited
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 33
Views: 4,307
That is not a software issue, it is a pure mechanical solution required to be coupled with the aperture ring on a manual k-mount lens. That little lever is missing in Pentax DSLR bodies.



I do not think Leica M8 owners would agree with that reasoning tranfered to the rangefinder niche and comparing some cheapo rangefinder with more bells n whistles than the M8, and they are paying 5K USD! The same is true in this case.

The current DSLR lineup is downright clumsy cameras to my taste. Just try to fit a K10D with a lens monted on in the inner pocket of your jacket.. I also regard all those buttons as pure clutter, i do not want it. And the useless keyhole called viewfinder, its a joke. I want a clean, compact, really high quality, and very basic single lens reflex digital camera, ment to be used manually with manual lenses. I would still be prepared to pay 4K if there was no autofocus, but i would not mind it if it was done in an unitrusive way.

Some people get even offended by my thoughts, and even starting to call me names. But how can this be a threat to them? Some try to find technical reasons, but there is no such reasons. Take away the grip, the flash and the display and all those buttons on the back, and you will get a camera that is almost as thin as those old manual cameras. And remember, the success of SLR was once up on a time thet they where compact. But a top of line with a standard zoom is bigger than some mediumformats today, especially with a battery grip.

But i am also fully aware that what i want is a niche, just like M8. Not everyone would like a camera like that, it would not fit their style of shooting and lots of other arguments regarding automation. The niche aspect is also the reason that the price can be high, and since it is a niche it is not a threat to current type of cameras.

There are obviously quite many people that want a camera like this, probably a lot more than M8 buyers, but still a niche. But there is no such camera to buy, for any money. So, there is a lunch to be eaten here, a whole world market niche to claim. The first one will also be alone and get 100% of it. Pentax is the best positioned maker due to the K-mount and all those lenses where some even is manufactured today, add to this the FA Limiteds.

Price is almost of no issue here. And CaNikon is even further away from this niche.

BTW.
Those old ME or LX do fit the inner pocket of my medium sized jacket, but they are not digital.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 02-14-2008, 06:28 AM  
New Leica M8 Full-Frame announced at PMA !
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 59
Views: 8,033
I just wish the M8 was a Single Lens Reflex instead of a rangefinder.



I think there are more people prepared to buy a Single Lens Reflex with the same "think" behind it for $5k than there are buyers of the M8. But today no one can buy such a thing regardless of any price.
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-dslr-discussion/20667-poll-basic-b...d-limited.html
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 02-14-2008, 06:11 AM  
Poll: Poll - Basic but high end ME or LX-D Limited
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 33
Views: 4,307
Of 32 voters, only 9 (28%) did not like the concept, that means support from 23 (72%) if we disregard the price.

A majority, 17 (53%) liked the concept but thought the price was too high. The rest 6 (19%), would consider it if it could be bought even for this quite high price. Of those in favour, this means that 26% would consider it despite the price, and 74% would consider it at a lower price. So far this is way higher support of the concept than i ever thought. I may be more right about how out of touch the camera makers are today.

Well, the poll is still open.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 02-12-2008, 04:59 PM  
Poll: Poll - Basic but high end ME or LX-D Limited
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 33
Views: 4,307
I would buy a Leica M8 if it wasnt a rangefinder.. so it is not a must for everyone.



Sounds like you want Pentax to be a Canon.. Sorry, i could not resist ;-)

And why more AF points? You still have to chose from them. I think it is better to have one single moveable point, that is like having an infinite number of them.

Well, we all have different taste, and we use cameras in quite different ways. I can fully understand the needs of the photojournalist in a big crowd of many similiar, those who need a fully autometed camera that can be used with one hand holding it way up in the air and shooting away, just hoping to at least get one or two decent shots of the subject. The camera of this poll is not for them. I would only get a picture of the crowd from behind. But thats me, i am the slow one that can walk n tinker around my subject for "ages", hardly ever taking a snapshot. Well, maybe a bit exaggerated, but something like that. I like small cameras that i do not need a backpack to carry the body and three lenses. The wideangle in the left pocket, a 135mm tele in the other, and the camera with a 43mm pancace in the inner pocket. Try that with a K10D and DA lenses.. My old 135mm f2.8 actually fits in the pockets of a medium sized jeans jacket.

Yes, this is a true niche camera, not a camera for everyone. But if 2 out of 100 SLR users are like me, thats a huuughe niche, a lot bigger than the M8 niche and around half the total market share of Pentax. And since a camera like this, "M8 but SLR", cannot be bought for any amount of money today. The first maker to claim this niche will be alone and get 100% of the it, at least in the beginning.

One more thing, this camera is no threat to the current cameras of today since it is way different. So there is no reason to be afraid of it. They can live side by side, as it is a true niche and not just yet another camera like the lineup of other brands.
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 02-12-2008, 11:07 AM  
Poll: Poll - Basic but high end ME or LX-D Limited
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 33
Views: 4,307
Would you consider to buy the camera described below:

This is a digital camera quite alike those Pentax ME or LX from late seveties. A really high quality camera ment to be used manually with manual lenses, though it has a basic autofocus and can handle the FA Limiteds. Think of it as a Leica M8 but single lens reflex insted of a rangefinder.

The camera with a pancake lens should fit inside the inner pocket of a normal jacket, just like those cameras from late seventies did. It should have a really high quality build in metal, plastic only where it is necessary, quite heavy compared to its size. No program modes exept aperture prio. No built in flash. No large grip making the camera clumsy. No menus to get lost in, except in the separate cable attached screen where jpeg-modes, dates and so on can be set up. Everything needed should be on camera controls, not in screen menus. Small, simple, just the basics, really made to be used fully manual with manual lenses, that is the leading thought. Quite expensive too, not aimed at beginners for sure (unless they really want to learn), think of it as a Leica M8, the same high quality, but SLR insted of a rangefinder.

It is fully compatibel with old manual K-mount lenses, not only half-compatibel as the current Pentax DSLR lineup. It has a large viewfinder ment for manual focus, with a magnification factor acording to sensor crop (1.5x magn. if 1.5 crop sensor).

Price? Imagine two models, a cheaper ME-D and a more expensive wheather sealed LX-D with larger sensor and antishake.

ME-D Limited = 3800 USD
LX-D Limited = 4800 USD


Now to the some specs:

* At least 10Mp and 1.5 crop or bigger (LX).
* Antishake (LX)
* Sensorcleaning (LX)
* ISO 100-3200
* Dust/Weather(LX) sealed.
* Aperture priority as the only automode.
* Self timer of course.
* Bulb to at least 1/4000s shutter.
* 98% or more coverage pentaprism viewfinder.
* Viewfinder magn. according sensor crop.
* Focusing screen with split screen and microprisms,
this camera is ment to be used manually.
* Mirror lock-up lever.
* Spot and centerweighted metering switch.
* AE lock button.
* Basic TTL and first/second curtain sync.
* Sync cable connector, not just the hot shoe.
* RAW/RAW+jpeg choosing button.
* Color temp/awb knob on camera.
* A smallish lcd indicating battery and pic count.
* Autofocus motor in the camera house.
* One single moveable focusing point.
(small joystick-knob like those on a laptop)
* Fully compatible with all manual Pentax lenses(fully,
not just the stop-down) plus the FA series.
* No screen on camera!! The screen should bee a separete
cable attached acessory (even wireless?) in different
sizes, the bigger ones with their own battery or power
supply. This screen could also serve as live-view
(imagine that, live-view on a 15 inch.) There could
be a smallish chimp-screen bundled with the camera,
that also have a mount for the hot shoe wich is
practical used as live-view.

So, would you buy it?
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 02-10-2008, 05:02 PM  
Poll: Poll - $2500 low end FF or Hi-spec APS-C? - Please read initial post before voting
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 126
Views: 20,151
I voted for the basic FF.

But that is really not what i would opt for. I would like a camra with the same "think" behind as the Leica M8, but single lens reflex insted of a rangefinder. A digital ME or let say a "Pentax LX-D Limited". I would pay at least 4000 US dollars or even more for such a camera. I would not mind if it did not have autofocus, though it could be practical with autofocus motor in house using FA lenses. I would still be prepared to pay 4000 if there was no on camera display, that could be cable attached instead. With a pancake it would fit the inner pocket of my jacket.
Forum: Digital Processing, Software, and Printing 01-28-2008, 08:43 AM  
RAW in Linux - PEF vs. DNG?
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 55
Views: 30,614
Not really. It is just free to use, as in free beer, not free as in freedom of speech.
Forum: Digital Processing, Software, and Printing 01-27-2008, 04:04 AM  
RAW in Linux - PEF vs. DNG?
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 55
Views: 30,614
UFRaw and DCRaw uses the same dcraw program to do the work. And you can have them both if you do it yourself insted of depending on your package manager.

dcraw is Dave Coffins little commandline tool that most RAW-converters are based on, even Photoshop was originally based on dcraw. dcraw har no graphical interface, it is pure commandline. You find dcraw here:

Decoding raw digital photos in Linux

If you want you can have UFRaw installed in /usr, the DCRaw gimp plugin installed in /usr/local, and then even have as many different versions of dcraw in different folders in your home directory as you wish. This is Linux, the computer is yours. You can if you want, even if some obscure package manager says otherwise.

If you download the source for UFRaw then you can decide for your self if you want its version of dcraw built in, or if you want the build to build a binary dcraw for you. It is up to you. You can decide if you only want to be able to use UFRaw as a stand alone tool, and you can choose to build the Gimp-plugin or a Cinepaint plugin. The latest UFRaw v0.13 is built on dcraw 8.80, and the latest dcraw as of 2007/12/10 is 8.81.

I guess your package manager give you an old UFRaw built on an old dcraw without support for your RAW-file format. But the code is out there, compile for your self, it is just a mater of ./configure make and make install. You can also replace the "make install" with "checkinstall make install" if you want to make your own package and install that (makes uninstall easier using your package manager). Then you can have as many versions as you want installed in whatever dirs you wish. The stable version in /usr, a developer release in /usr/local and maybe a bleeding edge latest daily change from CVS in your home dir. It is your computer.
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 01-27-2008, 03:33 AM  
Pentax - Future dream setup...
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 9
Views: 3,547
No, they are building green-rectangle auto everything clutter do anything but cook food cameras just like all the others.

If any maker else than Pentax will claim the niche i am thinking about (M8 but SLR) it will be the Russian Zenit or the Chinese Phoenix. The window of opportunity is closing...
Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 01-26-2008, 07:31 PM  
Pentax - Future dream setup...
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 9
Views: 3,547
You forgot a market segment where they would be alone and have it all by them self.

A kind of Pentax K1000D or LX-D

Small, simple, just the basics, really made to be used fully manual with manual lenses and so on, could fit into your inner pocket of your jacket with a pancace or even a 50mm normal. But still a very high quality build in metal, quite heavy compared to size. Quite expensive too, not aimed at beginners for sure (unless they really want to learn), think of it as a Leica M8 but SLR insted of rangefinder.. Closest competitor would be the Leica M8.

Lets say that only 3% of all SLR photographers WW would be interested in such a camera, i think three out of 100 is quite realistic since the market for SLRs for sure is much bigger than the very top expensive rangefinder market. What would that mean? Today i think Pentax have 5% of the total market, in this niche they would be alone with no competitors at all. Why Pentax then? The K-mount and all those manual (and maybe FA) lenses of course. No other maker could pull this off without introducing a hwole new line of lenses, while Pentax could do it like tomorrow!
Forum: Digital Processing, Software, and Printing 01-26-2008, 07:04 PM  
RAW in Linux - PEF vs. DNG?
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 55
Views: 30,614
Yes, you get dcraw with ufraw, it is built in. Try open a terminal and type dcraw and press enter. Or you could type "locate dcraw". There is actually a configure-option to also build a separate dcraw when you build ufraw from source.

dcraw is the tool that actually does the interpolating stuff with the RAW-data to make it into a bitmap image, ufraw is "only" the graphical frontend to it.
Forum: Pentax Film SLR Discussion 01-04-2008, 05:21 AM  
New Pentax K-mount camera from Kenko
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 18
Views: 6,065
Looks like a nice camera. It looks very much like a Chinon CM-4.

http://kitatoma.pepo.jp/hobby_room/1_camera/image/CHINON/CHINON-CM-4.jpg
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 01-04-2008, 05:01 AM  
A Camera that cannot be bought.
Posted By Kiss
Replies: 20
Views: 4,276
Well i would be prepared to pay ten times that, if they did everything right and in an unintrusive way compared to a K1000, a Cinon CE or CM or most cameras from that time.

There are some rumors that the russian camera maker Zenit are developing something interesting. Google for "Zenit N1" and also google for pictures. But the rumors also talks about 4/3 system, making a 2.0 crop factor. That would ruin the whole thing and making it a $500 niche camera hardly profitable.
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