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Forum: Pentax K-5 02-02-2013, 02:28 AM  
No more tests! just pictures
Posted By hpk
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Forum: Pentax News and Rumors 02-22-2011, 05:13 PM  
LumoLabs: Pentax K-5 low light focus study is published
Posted By falconeye
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Fig.1: Accuracy of the Pentax K-5 phase detect AF vs. luminosity in EV. The above chart includes all measurements, i.e. various lenses, light colors, distances and apertures. The accuracy is measured as deviation of the focal plane from the sensor plane, in m. [from the study linked below]

LumoLabs (that's me ;) ) has decided to have a closer look at the K-5 low light front focus issue. After careful evaluation and many hundred test shots I must say that the issue is real.

A preliminary copy of the paper was provided to Pentax earlier this week and the head of Pentax Europe officially receives a printed copy today. I have been told that Pentax engineering will receive a copy too.


The study

The results are too complex to be presented in the scope of a forum article. Fig.1 above may provide a first idea of the work though.


Please, refer to the full blog article and to the complete paper for our findings:
You'll gain a deeper understanding of Fig.1 too ;)

In a nutshell, this is what we find:
  1. The K-5 as it presently ships indeed has a flaw in its phase detect autofocus module or software which causes it to front focus in low light below a lens-dependent threshold in EV.

  2. If it does, it seems to consistently focus ≈ 255 m behind the sensor plane (although with a significant 75 m scatter of results which is about twice as large as the normal scatter of result).

  3. Faster lenses seem to keep working in lower light but of course, are prone to more blur when the front focus does eventually happen. Slower lenses can already start to front focus at light levels metering as 4 EV or 6 EV even. A fast lens may work down to 0 EV in white light.

  4. Light sources other than daylight emphasize this problem as they simply appear darker to the AF module. Moreover, it seems to be moderately color blind for red which further emphasizes the effect in deep tungsten light.

  5. The effect is real and can negatively impact the daily work of a photographer. On the other hand, it is possible to run into a low light tungsten situation without the problem.

  6. The paper clarifies conditions to hit or avoid the issue. White light (halogen is not white enough though) and a wide lens stopped down help to work around the problem. AF assist light typically doesn't help though. But an LED flash light does. ;)

  7. I don't rule out that a m-valued variable becomes 0xFF (255) and causes a false shift of the focus plane by 255 m. I call it the +0xFFm hypothesis.


Please, keep discussion within this thread related to the above study and work which is based on experiments. We have another thread for the exchange of observations and opinions.
It is here: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-5-forum/128562-relevant-news-re-...ial-light.html

Thanks everybody for their motivation. I probably wouldn't have done it without. Again it turned out to be more work than anticipated ;)
Forum: Pentax Medium Format 07-11-2010, 05:59 PM  
New to 645, Where are the tutorials?
Posted By Nesster
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Pentax 645N 120 Film Loading - Photo.net Medium Format Forum
Forum: Pentax DSLR Discussion 07-20-2010, 04:23 AM  
AF-330FTZ Flash - Compatible?
Posted By Adam
Replies: 5
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This flash should work in auto mode on 645 bodies, as they support TTL.

On all DSLRs with the exception of the *ist D and *ist DS2, it'll only work in manual mode. Pentax decided to cut costs with the newer bodies, and therefore, only P-TTL is supported, rather than both TTL (which requires an additional light meter installed inside the camera) and P-TTL (which is software-based).
Forum: Pentax Medium Format 07-13-2010, 10:27 AM  
Outsourcing Film Scanning ...
Posted By Smolk
Replies: 20
Views: 5,905
There is version 2 of ColorGenius, the software to run the Screen Cezanne, which runs under OSX. However, it does not come cheap (upgrades were $1000 a year ago). If you can find it with a used scanner, you won't need a G4.

But that is the disadvantage of commercial scanners. Everything else (new lamps, new glass) is "commercial" too.

Be aware, too, that it is 1,5 meter long and occupies a vast space in my study. On top of that come the G4 and calibrated monitor.

Still, I dumped my 4490.
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