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SMC Pentax-DA 10-17mm F3.5-4.5 Fish-Eye ED [IF]

Sharpness 
 8.4
Aberrations 
 6.9
Bokeh 
 7.2
Autofocus 
 8.9
Handling 
 9.2
Value 
 9.1
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SMC Pentax-DA 10-17mm F3.5-4.5 Fish-Eye ED [IF]

SMC Pentax-DA 10-17mm F3.5-4.5 Fish-Eye ED [IF]
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SMC Pentax-DA 10-17mm F3.5-4.5 Fish-Eye ED [IF]
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SMC Pentax-DA 10-17mm F3.5-4.5 Fish-Eye ED [IF]
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Description:
The Pentax 10-17mm fisheye lens provides a 180-degree diagonal Field of View (FoV) on Pentax APS-C format DSLRs. At 17mm, the FOV is reduced to 100 degrees. The image is not rectilinear. The fisheye effect is more dramatic at the wider end of the zoom range.

SMC Pentax-DA 10-17mm F3.5-4.5 Fish-Eye ED[IF]
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Image Format
APS-C
Lens Mount
Pentax K
Aperture Ring
No
Diaphragm
Automatic, 6 blades
Optics
10 elements, 8 groups
Mount Variant
KAF
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Max. Aperture
F3.5-4.5
Min. Aperture
F22-32
Focusing
AF (screwdrive)
Quick-shift
Yes
Min. Focus
14 cm
Max. Magnification
0.39x
Filter Size
No filter thread
Internal Focus
Yes
Field of View (Diag. / Horiz.)

APS-C: 180-100 °
Hood
Built-in
Case
S80-80
Lens Cap
Dedicated metal push-on
Coating
SMC,SP
Weather Sealing
No
Other Features
Fisheye
Diam x Length
68 x 71.5 mm (2.7 x 2.8 in.)
Weight
320 g (11.3 oz.)
Production Years
2006 to present (in production)
Pricing
$349 USD current price
$575 USD at launch
Engraved Name
smc PENTAX-DA FISH-EYE 1:3.5-4.5 10- 17mm ED[IF]
Product Code
21580
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★☆☆ Usable with reservations at select F-stop/focal length combinations
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Notes
One ED element.

Features:
Screwdrive AutofocusQuick ShiftInternal FocusingAutomatic ApertureAPS-C Digital OnlyDiscontinued
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Veteran Member

Registered: February, 2019
Posts: 624
Lens Review Date: October 13, 2019 I can recommend this lens: Yes | Price: $300.00 | Rating: 10 

 
Pros: Light, Extreme Field of View, FishEye Effect Optional, Proxy Photo
Cons: Chromatic Aberrations
Sharpness: 8    Aberrations: 7    Bokeh: 6    Autofocus: 9    Handling: 9    Value: 10    New or Used: Used    Camera Used: K-S2   

I've seen several photos of FishEye effect, including on the official Ricoh website, something that was supposed to attract customers into buying this lens. Most were with a subject in the center, heavily distorted. But those kind of photos are really unappealing for me. In my little head I thought I would never buy or need such a lens.

I have never been so wrong about something.

This lens is truly a gem, a lens that every photographer should have in his or her bag.

Why such a drastic change of mind, you may ask?

Well, first, this lens is in fact 3 lens in one :
- A true fisheye at 10mm, with 180° field of view
- An almost rectilinear ultrawide angle at 17mm (equivalent in terms of field of view of a 10mm rectilinear wide angle, like the Sigma 10-20 f/3.5 at 10mm)
- A proxy photo capable lens at 17mm and close focus (0.39x magnification)

Besides, you are completely free to dose the FishEye, in different ways :
- The zoom ring (most at 10mm, minimal at 17mm and of course all the intermediate settings)
- Composition (fisheye effect is especially visible on the sides, and also in the center if the subject is close)
- The way you tilt your camera (upwards, downwards, leftward and rightward)

You can really make all kind of photos with all those parameters. Distorted, or not. Even at 10mm, one can make a photo with the fisheye effect almost invisible by clever composition. On the other hand, you can really make weird shots by tilting and composing carefully, while being far from the classical well-known FishEye effect.

You can use this lens for most photos, except portraits and wildlife. Of course you'll need to be careful how you use it, it's not a point-and-shoot lens. When I take my K-S2, I always wonder if I really need another lens, or if the DA 10-17 FishEye will be the only one.

About other characteristics, the lens has OK Bokeh, but that's not something important for an ultra wide angle. Focus is screw-driven, not really noisy. The distance scale is nice, and Quick Shift is nice to have, even if it's not really that important on an ultrawide. At 10mm there are chromatic aberrations on the side of the image, and the image is less sharp, but do not forget that the lens is trying to put 180° of field of view on your tiny sensor.
   
New Member

Registered: August, 2016
Posts: 7
Lens Review Date: July 1, 2019 I can recommend this lens: Yes | Price: $170.00 | Rating: 7 

 
Pros: Sharp , colors, contrast, very close min .focus
Cons: distortion, edges, aberration
Sharpness: 8    Aberrations: 7    Bokeh: 7    Autofocus: 6    Handling: 7    Value: 8    New or Used: Used    Camera Used: k5iis   

It's a lens that is super fun to use and very sharp at f11. I love to put the sun in my pics, just does grest in transforming the sun into a day statr. Stoping it down makes it a great lens. What I love in the minimum close up distance you can acheive with this lens, it's just perfect fo landscaping. At 17mm there is a lot less distortion, but you always have to put the horizon line in the middle to have it strait, since it'a a fisheye.
   
New Member

Registered: June, 2017
Posts: 2
Lens Review Date: May 21, 2019 I can recommend this lens: Yes | Price: $320.00 | Rating: 9 

 
Pros:
Cons:
Sharpness: 8    Aberrations: 9    Bokeh: 8    Autofocus: 8    Handling: 10    Value: 9    New or Used: New   

f7.1 17.0mm 1/400 iso100
https://flic.kr/p/2ezReSv



f7.1 10.0mm 1/400 iso100
https://flic.kr/p/25ncvZZ

   
Site Supporter

Registered: January, 2019
Location: Geelong, Australia
Posts: 144
Lens Review Date: March 19, 2019 I can recommend this lens: Yes | Price: $250.00 | Rating: 9 

 
Pros: Size & Weight, less fisheye at 17mm, Artistic value
Cons: Inability to put filter on lens

I would love a WR version of this lens.
Bought for astrophotography and landscapes, I find myself using it more for street photography than anything else so far (having only owned it for a few weeks).
I intend on using this quite a lot for travel pics in the near future.
Not as sharp as I would like but great for the value for money.
Handles equally well on my K-70 & K-x.
I gave this an 8.5 but rounded it up to 9.
   
Site Supporter

Registered: October, 2018
Posts: 394
Lens Review Date: March 9, 2019 I can recommend this lens: Yes | Price: $375.00 | Rating: 9 

 
Pros: Gives interesting graphic possibilities. Very sharp with great color.
Cons: Some chromatic aberrations (not a problem in landscapes)
Sharpness: 10    Aberrations: 7    Bokeh: 3    Autofocus: 10    Handling: 10    Value: 10    New or Used: New    Camera Used: Pentax K3   

   
Pentaxian

Registered: August, 2011
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 2,298
Lens Review Date: January 28, 2019 I can recommend this lens: Yes | Price: N/A | Rating: 8 

 
Pros: Compact; great FL range; covers FF over 14-17 mm
Cons: CA
Sharpness: 7    Aberrations: 9    Bokeh: 8    Autofocus: 9    Handling: 10    Value: 9    New or Used: Used    Camera Used: K3 and K1   

I bought this lens from my son when he shifted to Nikon. Although I mostly shoot FF, it is still useful to me since it covers the FF sensor from 14mm upward. It is also a far more compact UW option than the DFA 15-30 when I don't mind the fishiness.

It is hard to rank this lens for "Aberrations", since one aberration (fishiness) is its raison d'ętre. Ignoring that, it does produce pronounced colour fringing, but is very easily cleaned up in LR. So it's not a problem. On the other hand, its resistance to flare is astonishing, which is very useful for such a wide angle lens.

Sharpness is reasonable, especially at frame centre, and especially in the context of a fisheye lens. It's not going to compare in that regard with a top-quality recent DFA lens, but it is more than acceptable.

The fisheye perspective is of course a rather niche feature. However, in the right time and place, and with the right artistic intent, it produces some striking images. This rather unique 10-17 fisheye is a very nice for occasional use.

The main reason my son had this lens was for underwater (SCUBA) photography, where he got many great images. So much so that he has now bought the identical Tokina version for his Nikon D850. The Pentax/Tokina 10-17 fisheye is very highly regarded by the underwater photography community.

K1 + DA 10-17 @ 17mm




Crop near centre of previous image
   
Site Supporter

Registered: October, 2013
Location: Fremantle, Western Australia
Posts: 20

1 user found this helpful
Lens Review Date: January 14, 2019 I can recommend this lens: Yes | Price: $350.00 | Rating: 9 

 
Pros: Light and sharp
Cons: CA is not great but common to all fisheye lenses.
Sharpness: 8    Aberrations: 6    Bokeh: 6    Autofocus: 10    Handling: 10    Value: 10    New or Used: New    Camera Used: K1   

I have modified this lens by machining off the lens hood to be able to use the full image circle on my K1 for shooting 360 panoramas. The FOV without the lens hood is around 187° with in portrait mode allows me to shotot 360 panos in just 3 frames but because the edges are a bit soft i am shooting 4 frames to utilize the sharpest areas of this lens.

   
New Member

Registered: May, 2017
Location: Kiev
Posts: 12

1 user found this helpful
Lens Review Date: November 23, 2018 I can recommend this lens: Yes | Price: $400.00 | Rating: 8 

 
Pros: Sturdy metal case. Small sizes. Original photos. Universality (two in one: both a fisheye and a wide angle). Not afraid of backlight. It gives bright, rich colors in the photo. It has no analogues in other systems.
Cons: It is easy to scratch the front lens of the lens on the objects being photographed. Chromatic aberrations are very strong. Especially at extreme focal lengths and wide open aperture.
Sharpness: 8    Aberrations: 3    Bokeh: 6    Autofocus: 8    Handling: 9    Value: 8    New or Used: New    Camera Used: K-5   

This is a very good lens! There are no analogues to it. Can also be used as a 10mm fish eye. And as a normal 17mm wide-angle lens.
The lens is firmly assembled. Metal reliable design. Not afraid of backlight. Excellent and bright colors. It has small dimensions, as for such a wide constructive.
At 10mm, this lens distorts space. It is necessary to get used to build a frame profitably so that the distortions of this lens create an interesting picture favorably. At the center point of the frame, everything remains almost without distortion. Distortion appears to the left and right of the center. The farther from the center of the frame, the more pronounced they are. But the most intense distortions appear up and down from the central horizontal frame. The farther from the central horizontal up or down frame, the stronger the distortion will be expressed. In accordance with this, as soon as you change the angle regarding the subject of shooting, the picture itself will change a lot. If you learn to choose the most favorable angles with this lens, you will get original and beautiful photos.
The lens has a very wide field of view of the image. At 10mm, you can easily get into the frame with your shoes. It will be visible at the bottom of the picture. Consider this point when taking a picture and do not lean back while taking a picture.
The disadvantages of this lens include strongly pronounced chromatic aberrations. Which occur on all borders between light and dark objects in the frame. To the edges of the frame, the aberrations are enhanced. They can be completely removed using image processing in Photoshop.
Also, when shooting, be careful. The front lens of the lens is so convex that it is very easy to scratch it against hard objects (metal, stone) during the shooting. To remove this lens is capable of being very close to the subject. The image in the viewfinder is moved back due to distortion. And you can easily and imperceptibly rest against the front lens in the object being photographed. And to scratch both the lens itself and the antireflection coating applied to its surface. The lens hood protects it poorly.

I recommend this lens! But when I save a message, it automatically appears "no" instead of "yes." I can not fix it. I do not know what it is connected with.



   
Pentaxian

Registered: December, 2013
Posts: 689

5 users found this helpful
Lens Review Date: July 11, 2018 I can recommend this lens: Yes | Price: $430.00 | Rating: 8 

 
Pros: Small, light, versatile zoom range
Cons: Purple fringing, not WR
Sharpness: 10    Aberrations: 7    Bokeh: 8    Autofocus: 8    Handling: 9    Value: 9    New or Used: New    Camera Used: K-30, KP   

This lens is a special effect lens, it has a 180 degree diagonal FoV and close focusing capability. Zoomed to 17mm it's near rectilinear. The lens has a built in hood and the hood is visible with any composition adjustment, so with the astrotracer it will show up at the edges.
The lens is very sharp even after using the FA limited other primes, but the much worse purple fringing (CA) makes the overal resolution worse.

Here are some images:
IMG0139_150228 by Benjámin Czétényi, on Flickr

IMG0071_150404 by Benjámin Czétényi, on Flickr

IMG0612_141003 by Benjámin Czétényi, on Flickr

IMG0222_141002 by Benjámin Czétényi, on Flickr

IMG170414_0004 by Benjámin Czétényi, on Flickr

IMG170319_0060 by Benjámin Czétényi, on Flickr

IMG170626_0083 by Benjámin Czétényi, on Flickr

IMG170627_0094 by Benjámin Czétényi, on Flickr
   
Veteran Member

Registered: February, 2014
Location: Banja Luka
Posts: 344

6 users found this helpful
Lens Review Date: December 14, 2016 I can recommend this lens: Yes | Price: $300.00 | Rating: 9 

 
Pros: Fun, small & light, great results
Cons: Can't think of any
Sharpness: 8    Aberrations: 7    Bokeh: 7    Autofocus: 10    Handling: 10    Value: 10    New or Used: New    Camera Used: K-5 IIs   

Everyone should have one of these. It's fun to use, it's small and light so you can carry it in your bag at all times, produces wonderful photos.
And when you compare to other manufacturers, it's also reasonably priced. I got mine from B&H when it was on sale, for $300. It's the most expensive lens I have and I absolutely love it.

If you use it right, the distortion is barely visible. But when you want it, it's certainly there.

Some samples (some of them stitched in MS ICE )







   
Loyal Site Supporter

Registered: June, 2011
Location: Gotland
Posts: 132

4 users found this helpful
Lens Review Date: November 5, 2016 I can recommend this lens: Yes | Price: N/A | Rating: 9 

 
Pros: Super wide view and keeps round objects round
Cons: None considering the special purpose
Sharpness: 8    Aberrations: 9    Bokeh: 8    Autofocus: 9    Handling: 9    Value: 10    New or Used: New    Camera Used: K10D to K3II   

When going digital this lens was part of the reason to choose Pentax! I have used it for ten years by now.

Invaluable for photographing rainbows and haloes. Good for cramped interiors i e cars. Sharp enough for most purposes.

I had to learn how the fisheye works. Radial lines are rendered straight. Tangential lines are bent a lot, more the further off-centre they occur. Round objects are rendered round.

By keeping this in mind (and with practise) I find this lens quite useful. In Photoshop CS6 and newer (and some special programs) the pictures can be de-fished easily. After ten years, I often keep just this lens in the bag along with the camera and a standard zoom.

With all cameras up to the K3II metering was no problem. With the K3II overexposure can be a problem in some unevenly lit scenes.

This link is to a photo showing a halo above my medieval parish church.

http://www.atoptics.co.uk/fza126.htm
   
Senior Member

Registered: December, 2012
Location: Wild-Nord-East Hungary
Posts: 130

1 user found this helpful
Lens Review Date: September 19, 2016 I can recommend this lens: Yes | Price: $300.00 | Rating: 9 

 
Pros: Rich colors, compact, lightweight, enough sharp. Fun use. Price.
Cons: Chromatic aberration
Sharpness: 9    Aberrations: 5    Bokeh: 5    Autofocus: 10    Handling: 9    Value: 9    New or Used: Used    Camera Used: K-30   

At first it takes getting used to, but then a pleasure to use.
Image quality is generally good. Enough sharp wide open, corners a bit soft.
Good lens for travel, practical because of little size and weight. (of course, in addition to two fixed lens)
So, a fun and versatile lens.
   
Veteran Member

Registered: October, 2014
Location: Washington
Posts: 2,177
Lens Review Date: September 16, 2016 I can recommend this lens: Yes | Price: $285.00 | Rating: 7 

 
Pros: Wide angle, you can get an image when nothing else will.
Cons: Not really sharp until f11. Chromatic aberrations.
Sharpness: 6    Aberrations: 4    Autofocus: 10    Handling: 10    Value: 6    New or Used: New    Camera Used: K3   

I bought this lens as a demo from a reputable store. The price was right, $285.

I should have tested it before I went on vacation. I have a habit of shooting at f5.6 and it was a mistake. My copy does not get sharp on the edges until f11. Oh well, lesson learned, shoot at f11 and the results will be fine.

Check out my test on Flickr. Download the images so you can check them at 100%.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/24877856@N00/albums/72157673965333695
   
New Member

Registered: January, 2014
Posts: 2
Lens Review Date: September 12, 2016 I can recommend this lens: No | Price: $500.00 | Rating: 4 

 
Pros: fun of using a fisheye
Cons: chromatic aberrations
Sharpness: 6    Aberrations: 3    Bokeh: 4    Autofocus: 8    Handling: 8    Value: 4    New or Used: New    Camera Used: K5 ii   

fun to use as fisheye, average sharpness,
a lot of chromatic aberrations,especially when making HDRs
   
Pentaxian

Registered: January, 2011
Location: Skĺne, Sweden
Posts: 458

2 users found this helpful
Lens Review Date: August 5, 2016 I can recommend this lens: Yes | Price: $220.00 | Rating: 9 

 
Pros: Relatively compact, sharp, fun!
Cons: CA, no filters
Sharpness: 9    Aberrations: 6    Bokeh: 6    Autofocus: 9    Handling: 9    Value: 9    New or Used: Used    Camera Used: K-3 II, K-01   

This review is for a good condition DA10-17 bought second-hand in Sweden, serial nr in the 5856xxx-range.

PROS
  • Fun to use
  • Relatiively compact for a fish-eye zoom (not to many of those around anyway)
  • Usefull both uncorrected (fish-eye) and corrected (rectilinerar)
  • Sharpness
  • Close-focus capabilities
  • Flare resistant

CONS
  • Aberrations in backlight, also a bit difficult to correct fully
  • No filter thread (common for this type of lenses)

I USE IT FOR
  • Travel
  • Indoors
  • Creative fun

I mostly use prime lenses and in particularly I shoot portraits with the FA 43 & 77 Limiteds. I have the DA15 as well, which has been my go to wide angle since I bought it maybe five years ago. I'm very happy with the DA15, but it is just borderline to ultra-wide and the last year or so I realized that I wanted to try out the creative side of a fish-eye as well. When it came up for a good price second hand in Sweden I went for it! Firstly, filling the frame with a 10mm fish-eye is a challenge. I noted this already with the DA15, and it is even more so with the DA10-17. This is of course no fault of the lens, but as a portrait shooter it is a (fun) challenge!

I got familiar with this lens during a 10 day trip in Scotland, where I only previously had been playing around with it around the house. It is a bit of dual-purpose, since at 10mm you get the full fish-eye effect, but you can both correct it in post (and loose a whole lot of frame) or zoom towards 17 to minimize the fish-eye effect and end up with a regular wide angle. This is very handy during travel, and it is great for landscapes, indoor and close-up fun. It is not a large lens, similar to the kit lens in size, weight and handling. It does not extend much when zooming and has internal focusing. No filter thread, as is the norm for this type of lens.

Image quality is generally good. Sharp enough wide open, corners a bit soft but that's probably not where you place your subject anyway Being such a wide lens it is hard to say if it is field curvature, distortion effects, lack of sharpness.. it hasn't bothered me anyway. What can be a bit of pain is CA, which is plentiful in backlit scenarios. Usually it is a sharp purple or green border, a few pixels wide, but on the DA10-17 it is a more gradual smear.. and that is a bit more challenging to correct. It is not a deal-breaker for me, as dramatic wide angles has plenty of going on usually and that is what catches the eye.

For the price I paid I could hardly complain about anything. The build quality is lacking a bit compared to Limiteds or DA* lenses, but nothing else is expected really. It is a good lens for fun, travel, indoors that for the price has great value. It is probably the person behind the camera that is the limiting factor for creating that impressive fish-eye/wide angle shot, can't blame the DA10-17 for that

Pentax K-3 II, SMC Pentax-DA 10-17mm F3.5-4.5 Fish-Eye ED [IF]. 10mm, 1/1000 sec at f/5.6, ISO 100.


Pentax K-3 II, SMC Pentax-DA 10-17mm F3.5-4.5 Fish-Eye ED [IF]. 17mm, 1/40 sec at f/4.5, ISO 400.


Pentax K-3 II, SMC Pentax-DA 10-17mm F3.5-4.5 Fish-Eye ED [IF]. 10mm, 1/1000 sec at f/8.0, ISO 100.


My pictures on flickr with this lens
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