Author: | | Pentaxian Registered: June, 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 3,210 | Review Date: September 7, 2019 | Not Recommended | Price: $50.00
| Rating: 6 |
Pros: | | Cons: | | Sharpness: 6
Aberrations: 7
Bokeh: 6
Handling: 9
Value: 5
Camera Used: k-01/KP
| | Maybe I've had bad copies, but after owning two of these I can't recommend it. Sharpness is poor on APSC no matter how much you try, and the images come out flat without any character. Contrast is bad, aberrations are mediocre at best, Bokeh is busy and not very pleasing.
I had actually tested this lens against my Tak Bayonet 135 f2.5, and the 135 is sharper than the 200 when cropped to 200mm equiv at F4-F8. Disappointing.
The only thing this lens has going for it in my opinion is the fact that it's an M lens in construction so at least it's nice to hold.
I'd suggest a hard pass on this. If you need long end performance on the cheap I'd recommend looking into the A70-210 or a non PLM 55-300.
If you need an M telephoto however (for some reason), while it isn't as long, the M75-150 is almost the same size while creaming this thing in performance even wide open.
| | | | | Veteran Member Registered: January, 2013 Location: Kansas City, KS Posts: 1,612 5 users found this helpful | Review Date: April 2, 2016 | Not Recommended | Price: $70.00
| Rating: 7 |
Pros: | compact, lightweight, sharpness, rendering | Cons: | contrast, color, all the inconveniences of a fixed focal length | | Here's my Flickr album with all of my images from this lens: CLICK HERE.
I bought it used from eBay, actually one of the first lenses I bought when I started my collection, but I've never really put it through its paces, and even after this (most) month, I still feel like I could learn some things about it.
It's a solid M lens, well constructed and responsive. Nicely dampened focus ring that goes on for miles and miles, so it was a little inconvenient to have to crank the thing around from infinity to MFD, when I was ever in that position. The aperture ring has half-clicks from 4 all the way up to 32, but I never stopped it down past f/16 for my purposes. The lens has a built-in slide-out hood, which did improve contrast noticeably. The hood on my particular lens is adorably and amateurishly engraved with the name "Wilber Havens". I'd like to know who he is, but I'm sure I'll never find out. ;-)
The lens doesn't disappoint with sharpness and rendering - it's a solid performer, but not remarkable. Contrast and color were not as dependable, but images responded well to PP. The CA was readily available in all high-contrast situations, but Lightroom knocked it down, and it was actually less intrusive at the most usable (or, at least, my most-used) apertures, f/5.6 to f/11. The bokeh was pleasant enough for me, when I could conjure it, but I'm not much of a bokeh connoisseur, so my opinion's not worth much.
The FOV was, frankly, shocking. I'm not a keen telephoto shooter and I gravitate more towards wide-normal lenses. I don't want to be stuck at 200mm for a month ever again! lol! But, to be honest, the lens was easy enough to handle and the MFD was graciously ~2m/6ft, which was pretty manageable.
Ultimately, I was not inclined to like the focal length, and I have no other fixed 200mm lenses to compare it to, so this was a pretty blind experimentation on my part. Mr. Havens may have loved the lens enough to get his name emblazoned on it for eternity, but if I am ever in a situation where I think I might need the extra reach of a telephoto, I'll definitely be packing my A70-210/4 or my Kalimar 60-300/4-5.6 before tying myself down to a fixed focal length, even with the dependability and build quality of the M lenses.
| | | | Site Supporter Registered: September, 2010 Location: Venlo Posts: 163 3 users found this helpful | Review Date: February 6, 2013 | Not Recommended | Price: $47.00
| Rating: 7 |
Pros: | build quality, low price | Cons: | disappointing IQ, color rendition | Sharpness: 7
Aberrations: 5
Bokeh: 8
Handling: 9
Value: 6
Camera Used: K5
| | I bought this used lens as an alternative for my DA 55-300mm, for the moments that I hope to squeeze out some extra image quality and when working slowly. If I compare the Takumar 2,5/135mm and the Pentax K 1.8/85mm with the zoom lens at the corresponding focus positions, the old primes win hands down. This is what I expected from the M 200mm as well, but I was disappointed. There is no reason to change the zoom for the 200mm for an occasional high-quality shot.
Test images were taken with the camera on a tripod, mirror lock-up and the zoom automatically and manually focussed, for comparison.
The 200mm copy I own is less sharp than the zoom in the middle of the image, for probably all apertures. The edges are slightly better. The color rendition is blueish, cold. At the edges the color fringing is similar to the zoom for in-focus objects. Out-of-focus objects have much stronger fringes.
On average, I like the images taken with the 55-300mm zoom better. So probably the M 200mm will be added to the set of "not used anymore" lenses. Apparently not all old primes are a steal, not even for so little money | | | | | Review Date: February 4, 2009 | Not Recommended | Price: $80.00
| Rating: 3 |
Pros: | Extremely compact as described, built like a tank | Cons: | really bad optical performance in my copy with out any visible reason for that | | While an extremely compact lens my copy has not given good results even stopped down and at medium focusing distances and low light conditions (tripod and K100D used). I compared it with a cheap Tamron 70-300 (f4.5 at 200mm so not really slower) and in all cases at medium focusing distances the already cheap tamron was substantially better.
I dont know if i have a bad copy (lens is in mint condition externally however) but I was little surprised by the performance of the lens, both due to the good reviews it had and to the excellent performance I already have from other manual pentax lenses (m 40mm f2.8 and the SMC A 50mm f1.7) I own.
| | | | | New Member Registered: November, 2023 Posts: 5 | Review Date: November 17, 2023 | Recommended | Price: $80.00
| Rating: 7 |
Pros: | sharpness, price, handling, build quality, built-in hood | Cons: | low contrast, fringing wide open | Sharpness: 8
Aberrations: 5
Bokeh: 8
Handling: 10
Value: 9
Camera Used: K-70
| | Great lens for the price!
Wide open it is not that sharp and can produce pretty bad purple fringing and other abberations, but it improves a lot if you stop it down even by one stop, and gets very sharp at f/8!
The compact size and tank-like build quality of the Pentax-M lenses are also a big plus! I think your camera would break easier than this if it were to fall.
Another helpful aspect of the lens is the build-in hood, which can bring back some contrast into shots on bright days. Contrast is lower compared to modern lenses, but this is easilty fixable in post-processing.
In conclusion, this is a great complement to the kit lens if you want to shoot wildlife or sports, and don't mind manual focus. Definitely the best lens of this price range and focal length.
| | | | Pentaxian Registered: May, 2016 Posts: 3,726 1 user found this helpful | Review Date: July 17, 2021 | Recommended | Price: $50.00
| Rating: 9 |
Pros: | lightweight, image quality | Cons: | CA, moderate sharpness | Sharpness: 8
Aberrations: 6
Bokeh: 10
Handling: 10
Value: 10
Camera Used: K-1II, K-3II
| | I've had this lens on the k3ii a few years ago and sold it, on apsc a 55-300 made more sense with all the modern conveniences. Got a second one for the K1ii and I'm finding it much more useful, I'm using it for landscapes and abstracts.
The main advantages over other vintage lenses in this range (had fa 80-320, have vivitar s1 70-210 for example) are the combination of nice image quality, build quality, and compact size; with the others it's often pick two of these features. It's not bitingly sharp, but the images are pleasing with nice color and moderate contrast, quite unlike modern rendering. Chromatic aberrations aren't bad, but it's one area that could be a little better.
| | | | Junior Member Registered: July, 2017 Posts: 42 4 users found this helpful | Review Date: May 13, 2020 | Recommended | Price: $90.00
| Rating: 8 |
Pros: | Inexpensive, sharp | Cons: | Moderate CA | Sharpness: 9
Aberrations: 7
Value: 8
Camera Used: Pentax K-3II
| | I have been using this lens strictly for astrophotography. Star shapes are good and CA is moderate when stopped down to f/5.6. This lens is very easy to use with Astrotracer because of its small size. Here is an astrophoto I took with it (tracking by Astrotracer): | | | | New Member Registered: January, 2020 Posts: 4 | | | | Loyal Site Supporter Registered: June, 2013 Location: Utrecht Posts: 255 | Review Date: October 15, 2019 | Recommended | Price: $40.00
| Rating: 9 |
Pros: | Compact, sharp and contrasty stopped down, hood | Cons: | red/greenish fringing wide open | Sharpness: 9
Aberrations: 7
Bokeh: 9
Handling: 10
Value: 10
Camera Used: K1ii, K-01 and film
| | This lens is a real surprise. Not in the same league as the K2.5/135 but decent sharp stopped down. At F4 there is a lot of green/red fringing in contrasty areas, almost gone at F5.6.
F8-F11 is the sweet spot for this lens for clean sharp pictures, even on full frame in the corners. As with most tele's, you have to correct the levels a bit in post because the lower contrast (stretch the diagram).
Low price, true build quality, portability and build in hood makes this lens a no-brainer. In good light situations I often grab this with me because it is so compact and sharp enough.
Pictures on Full Frame: | | | | Junior Member Registered: September, 2008 Location: Québec Posts: 40 | Review Date: April 29, 2019 | Recommended | Price: $40.00
| Rating: 9 |
Pros: | Small, Lightweight, Excellent Handling | Cons: | None | Sharpness: 9
Aberrations: 8
Bokeh: 9
Handling: 10
Value: 10
Camera Used: K5 - II s
| | Really surprised, sharp enough at f 11 . | | | | New Member Registered: February, 2016 Location: lake constance Posts: 1 | Review Date: March 18, 2019 | Recommended | Price: $50.00
| Rating: 10 |
Pros: | Light weighted, sharp, small | Cons: | none | Sharpness: 9
Aberrations: 9
Bokeh: 10
Handling: 10
Value: 10
Camera Used: Sony A7, Pentax MX, ME super
| | In my opinion this is a very interesting lens for general use on trips. Not too heavy and long. Good handling on MX and ME super. Digital use is perfect.
The built-in hood is very helpful, also on rainy days. Perfect mechanics and optical quality like my former Nikon AIS 4 200mm. But this lens is a real pocket tele with a much better coating.
Generally the coating of the smc lenses is better than the NIC and the later Nikon coatings on manual lenses.
I can completely recommend this tiny and solid lens, because you can get it for a low price in good condition. Its a pity, that you can´t get those lenses new anymore. The good old times. With the Pentax smc M 4 200mm you can bring back a little bit of that to your photograph. Enjoy it! | | | | New Member Registered: January, 2019 Posts: 14 | Review Date: February 5, 2019 | Recommended
| Rating: 8 |
Pros: | | Cons: | Price, construction in relation to "K" ... | Sharpness: 7
Aberrations: 7
Bokeh: 7
Handling: 7
Value: 7
Camera Used: K-5II
| | The lens is only good. it is too expensive for its performance. better to add $ and buy a series of "K".
| | | | Forum Member Registered: October, 2017 Location: Lindsborg, Kansas Posts: 91 2 users found this helpful | Review Date: October 9, 2018 | Recommended | Price: $70.00
| Rating: 9 |
Pros: | Small, Lightweight, Excellent Handling | Cons: | None | Sharpness: 9
Handling: 10
Value: 10
Camera Used: Pentax K-70
| | A few months ago I purchased a used Pentax M 200mm f/4 lens. I had a gap in my lens line-up between 135mm and 300mm, so I figured this would be a cheap solution (it was only $70).
When the lens arrived it was in like-new condition, and a few test shots around town confirmed that the image quality was decent… but it really wasn't a lens that I expected to use a lot.
However, I recently had a soccer match to shoot that started at 1:00 PM on a blazing hot day with the sun almost directly overhead: miserable conditions for trying to get good pictures. Because I didn't have high expectations for the match I decided to shoot the first half with the 200mm, just to see what it could do. When I reviewed the shots later, I was astonished at the spectacular images that I got with it!
The lenses I usually use for field sports are the Pentax F* 300mm f/4.5 and the Rokinon 85mm f/1.4. Compared to these lenses, the 200mm is much smaller and lighter, and the improvement in handling is definitely noticeable. This ease of handling is one reason why the lens is working so well for me. And 200mm on a crop sensor (equivalent to 300mm on a full-frame sensor) is a really good focal length for field sports.
The 200mm is also surprisingly easy to focus; much easier than the 85mm despite that len's bright f/1.4 aperture. It's so easy to focus that, at times, it feels like I'm using an autofocus lens! It should be noted, however, that using manual-focus lenses for fast action is a skill that has to be learned. I spent 20 years honing that skill back in the film era, so what is easy for me probably won't be easy for someone who has only used autofocus lenses. But, if you are willing to put in the effort to learn to use it, this lens will certainly deliver great results.
This is rapidly becoming my favorite lens for field sports. Not too bad for a 40-year-old manual focus lens! | | | | New Member Registered: September, 2016 Posts: 3 3 users found this helpful | Review Date: October 28, 2017 | Recommended | Price: $60.00
| Rating: 9 |
Pros: | Great performer, even at F4 | Cons: | None at this price | Sharpness: 9
Aberrations: 8
Bokeh: 7
Handling: 10
Value: 10
Camera Used: Olympus OM-D EM-1
| | When I switched from Pentax to micro4/3 this together with the pentax m 50mm F1.7 were the only two lenses I kept. I had 10+ legacy lenses, most of them m-series. Though beautifully crafted, they were all made redundant by modern glass; the so very impressive olympus 12-40 mm F2.8 pro zoom together with Sigmas 60mm F2.8 prime.
This and the 50/1.7 couldn't be replaced, though.
I use it on the em-1 with a pixco focal reducer ("speed booster"). It's an optic adapter that concentrates the full frame image circle rendered by the lens into a smaller area, effectively reducing the focal length by a factor of 0,72 = 144mm. A positive side effect is that you also gain a full stop of light (google "focal reducer" for the theory behind all of this) turning the lens into an F2.8. In practice with micro4/3's x2 crop factor due to the smaller sensor, this lens then becomes a 144 x 2 = 288mm F2.8 full frame equivalent!
The whole package with camera+battery grip+lens weighs in at 1,200 grams. Compare that to a full frame Canon or Nikon 300mm f2.8, where the lens just by itself weighs twice as much!
As a last positive note, it looks pretty awesome mounted on the camera.
Image quality? Holds up very well compared to modern lenses, magnifications posted are 100% crops.
All of this at a price of $120 (lens+focal reducer). Sure I don't have AF, but a Canon L 300mm F2.8 costs $6,000. I'm very happy. | | | | Junior Member Registered: July, 2016 Posts: 49 2 users found this helpful | Review Date: August 8, 2016 | Recommended | Price: $100.00
| Rating: 10 |
Pros: | In the right light it is perfect. | Cons: | none | Sharpness: 9
Aberrations: 9
Bokeh: 9
Handling: 9
Value: 10
Camera Used: k3ii
| | I cannot sing this lens' praises enough. I picked it up from a good lens dealer and it was in perfect shape. Everything worked wonderfully and it was light and compact enough that I could take it anywhere. Everything on the lens feels very well-made and premium.
Image-wise this is a perfect lens for its focal length. If you nail your focus correctly and stay within the lens' limits (don't try and shoot something half a mile away or some silliness) you will find no issues at all with your images. Being f4, it's faster than a lot of other old manual lenses and you will be surprised at just what you can shoot with the lens. I've done sports, birding, and landscapes with it - the key is nailing that focus.
For the money you won't find a better 200mm manual. I take it with me everywhere I go. | | |